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Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« on: Thursday 29 November 07 22:49 UTC (UK) »
Could anyone help me decipher my gt-gt-gt-grandmother's family entry in 1841 census.
Name: Jane RAWLINS (aged 11)
Resident at 55 Old St. Rd, Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets,London

Her father is Alexander Rawlins (aged 30)[from her marriage certificate;barely legible on the census image but just about clear if you know what name you're looking for !].

What I cant decipher is :
-Her mother's name (also aged 30 ) ?
-Her father's occupation ? (If it's any help, he's described as a "broker" on her 1855 marriage certificate)

Another anomaly on her marriage certificate is that the two witnesses are both from her family (presumably her father and sister, from names/ages) with no witness from her husband's family. Was this common practice ? or perhaps a sign that they were illiterate (or not even there,for whatever reason ?)   

Any help/insights/ideas much appreciated.
Adrian
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Cambs/London/Suffolk:Butcher,Rawlins,Fowler,Pilfold,Misson
Yorks:Powell,Fowler
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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 29 November 07 23:03 UTC (UK) »
Hi Adrian

Do you have the Ref No for the 1841 as she doesent seem to be showing up with the info you have given

Jane  Smiley
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Kershaw, Longbottom,Parvin
Areas  Huddersfield, Brighouse, Rastrick ,Thirsk, Sand Hutton
Masters in London/Surrey
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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 29 November 07 23:08 UTC (UK) »
Jane
The Public Record Office reference on the image I've downloaded (through Genes Reunited) is HO107/709/6 page 21. Is that the sort of reference you're looking for ?

Apologies if I'm missing the obvious.
Adrian
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Cambs/London/Suffolk:Butcher,Rawlins,Fowler,Pilfold,Misson
Yorks:Powell,Fowler
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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 29 November 07 23:24 UTC (UK) »
Ive found her now...she is indexed as Ramline on Ancestry!!

I will see if i can make it out for you..

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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 29 November 07 23:28 UTC (UK) »
Hi

Mothers name is Caroline

Still working on fathers occ Grin Grin

Jane
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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 29 November 07 23:30 UTC (UK) »
Sorryyyyyyyyyyy..Mother is Jane!!!!!!!


Jane..DOH.....
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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 29 November 07 23:40 UTC (UK) »
His Occupation looks like " Tenter ?"   Grin

Can you cut the occ bit of the image and post it seperatly in the common room!

In 1851 he is a builder employing 3 men so no clues there!!

Jane
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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #7 on: Friday 30 November 07 12:29 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: AgLabDescendant on Thursday 29 November 07 23:08 UTC (UK)
Jane
The Public Record Office reference on the image I've downloaded (through Genes Reunited) is HO107/709/6 page 21. Is that the sort of reference you're looking for ?

Apologies if I'm missing the obvious.
Adrian

The proper reference is HO107 piece 709 book 6 folio 37 page 21.

His occupation looks like timber merchant.

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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #8 on: Friday 30 November 07 12:32 UTC (UK) »
Quote from: AgLabDescendant on Thursday 29 November 07 22:49 UTC (UK)
Another anomaly on her marriage certificate is that the two witnesses are both from her family (presumably her father and sister, from names/ages) with no witness from her husband's family. Was this common practice ? or perhaps a sign that they were illiterate (or not even there,for whatever reason ?)   

Any help/insights/ideas much appreciated.
Adrian


All the Registration Act required was Two Credible Witnesses who could be anybody from about the age of eleven.

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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #9 on: Friday 30 November 07 12:35 UTC (UK) »
 Grin Now you mention it Stan it sure does look like Timber Merchant  Grin but having stared at it for a few hours late last night it didnt look like that then!!!!!!! Cool

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Re: Illegible 1841 census: Shoreditch,Tower Hamlets
« Reply #10 on: Friday 30 November 07 19:05 UTC (UK) »
Would this be the marriage from Pallots index.

Alexander RAWLINS - bachelor
Jane NASH - spinster


1828 - St George in the Boro.
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