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Newf
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Have you found Jane and the older girls on the 1871 ?
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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Newf
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I've tried - looking for the 2 girls w/o surname specified, mother Jane - nothing jumping off the page in Notts overall.
Also no George Shepherd and variants with wife Jane ....
strange one !
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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osprey
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this looks like them in 1871
Chapel Yard, Glanford Brigg RG10/3429 folio 20 pg 34
John Sharp head mar 34 gardener b. Notts, Holme
Jane wife 32 b. Lincs, Hibaldstow
Stephen son 15 b. Notts, Holme
Emma Jane dau 7 b. Holme
Christiana dau 6 b. Holme
Mary Charlotte dau 4 b. Holme
George Thomas 2 months b.Lincs, Brigg
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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SheilaM
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Here's the 1881 entry for the above family.
RG11/3303 F96 P10
Poplar Street, Ordsall
John Sharp 44, Ry Servant ?, b Holme
Jane 43, b Hibaldston Lincs
George 10, b Holme
Frederick J 8, b Holme
Amy E, 5 B Brigg Lincs
All are named Sharp ... Is this the correct family?
Sheila
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LANCS Rochdale: Sanderson, Burke. Crompton/Shaw: Robinson, Walkden, Swann
Oldham: Sandiford, Mitchell
STAFFS Willenhall/Cheslyn Hay: Stokes, Broom
SOMERSET: Bath: Broom/Hawkins/Plowman/Roberts/West
YORKS: Gibson, Helliwell
IRELAND: Burke, Holmes
USA/Canada: Sanderson
WILTSHIRE: Hawkins
All census information is Crown Copyright
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osprey
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1861 Principal Street, North Muskham, Notts RG9/2474 folio 99 pg 13
Stephen Foulstone head mar 64 ag lab b. Notts, Laneham
John son 22 ag lab b. Lincs, Hibaldstow
Jane dau 22 housekeeper b. Hibaldstow
Sarah dau 18 b. Hibaldstow
Betsy dau 14 b. Hibaldstow
Stephen grandson 5 scholar b. Notts, Besthorp
birth registrations
Stephen Thomas Foulston june qtr 1856 Southwell vol 7b pg 263
Christiana Shepherd dec qtr 1864 Southwell vol 7b pg 269
George Thomas Shaw march qtr 1871 Glanford Brigg vol 7a pg 653
But can't see an obvious death for George Shepherd or a remarriage. Do you have any of the birth certificates for confirmation of previous names?
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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osprey
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I might have found a possible for George in the right area in 1861
Shed, North Muskham RG9/2474 folio 94 pg 4
George Sheppard 26 ag lab b. North Muskham
Do you have the marriage certificate to confirm occupation and as a guide to their ages?
possible death?
George Henry Sheppard june qtr 1864 Newark vol 7b pg 196
Any children born to a widow would be registered in her married name.
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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Newf
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Good stuff !
Wonder why Ancestry isnt picking up 'Holme' within the Southwell Regn District ?
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Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk PLEDGER – 1678, Gt BardField, Essex EVERETT - 1830, Scoles, Norfolk & Epping, SX OSGATHORPE - 1825, North Kensington LILLEY – 1711, Ickleton, Cambs DAVISON – 1700-1710, Horncastle & Coningsby, Lincs BOWER – 1690-1700, Killinworth, Lincs CHASE – 1735, Kings Lynn, Norfolk LAIRD – 1777, Portsmouth, Hants & Kings Lynn, Norfolk GOWENLOCK – 1850, Carlisle KEW – 1814, Carlisle |
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osprey
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Wish I could identify a candidate for John Sharp in a census before 1871. It has crossed my mind that this is a case of change of name rather than remarriage.
Wonder whether the records of railway company John worked for on 1881 census might be of any use? It appears to say M S L or M & L?
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Cornwall: Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Kellett, Tebb
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Hi, it's my dad who goes to the Doncaster family history place, and is trying to solve this mysteryof John Sharp/ George Shepherd.
Some of my aunts and uncles were told that they should have had the surname of "Shepherd" but apart from the odd "old wives tale" as to why the name was changed, nothing has come to light yet.
Also it states Holme as his place of birth but it was more likely to be North Muskham, although there were lots of Sharps in Holme, including a large farm owned by them. George Shepherd would have probably known this and taken that surname so as not to raise suspicion if he did not want to be found??
There were lots of "Shepherds" around the North Muskham area at that time and we have now got back to the grandfather of George Shepherd, A William Shepherd born in 1768 in North Muskham. His son, Georges father, was called Thomas and was born 16th April 1800 in the same area. He married a Charlotte Ellis, and they had 8 children, George being the 4th child.
What we are now working on is that something happened between 1867 when George and Jane had had their 3rd child, Mary Charlotte Shepherd, and 1871, when they appear on the cencus in Brigg and as John and Jane Sharp. Subsequent children are named Sharp, including my great grandad, Frederick Foulston Sharp.
Does anyone have any Ideas as to where we go next?.....or indeed where we could look?
We have read through some of the old newspapers from newark library, up to october 1867, but we know this would be a mamouth job as we dont even know what we are looking for!!!!
Would just like to say a big thanks to those who have helped so far... 
Any ideas?
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