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O1dgobbo
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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #30 on: Monday 03 December 07 21:12 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Gadget.
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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #31 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 09:26 GMT (UK) »

Hi gobbo

Answer says that she doesn't immediately recognise it as Whitley Bay  Undecided

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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #32 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 09:38 GMT (UK) »

Sorry I didn't post this yesterday  Roll Eyes  I have read the book with mum and we do not recognize it as a Middlesbrough church, the only other one mum could think of is maybe St Peter's at Redcar, mind you if it is, it has changed over the years.

One other thing you could try is writing to the local paper for the area Evening Gazette and asking them to post it in the 'Where are you now' section - might be worth a try

I really hope you get to the bottom of your mystery


Jane


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MONAGHAN & CRAMLINGTON - RICE
LAZENBY - HANSOM, HARRISON, NODDINGS, EASBY
BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD
DANBY & WHITBY  - JEFFELS
LIVERPOOL - GANDER
SKELTON & ESTON - SEATON
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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #33 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 21:19 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Thank you all very much.  The suggested dates point to the wedding of a cousin that I have never met.  This wedding is registered in the first quarter 1954 in what was then the Northumberland South registration district.  I have an out of focus picture of this cousin as a child and the face and hair look very similar to the face and hair of the unknown bride.  Gadget pointed to the hair as being not of the period and it looks as if she has kept much the same style from her childhood, in the 1930s.

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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #34 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 21:25 GMT (UK) »

Gobbo

She must be the same one  Smiley I'm still trying to recall the C of E church in Whitley Bay. I do recall that it was in a fairly built up area and could well be that Church. The entrance did have a pitched covered roof but the paths were all curved  Undecided

However this was early 2000s and that was then  Undecided

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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #35 on: Tuesday 04 December 07 21:39 GMT (UK) »

Eyes and nose look the same wayhey fingers crossed  Grin


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BARNBY DUN - HARVEY, BLANCHARD
DANBY & WHITBY  - JEFFELS
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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 01:55 GMT (UK) »

Looks like the same person to me.  Smiley
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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 07:07 GMT (UK) »

Judging by the windows in the building in the background, I would have thought 1950's. Any architects out there?

I was married in 1959 and my wife wore a veil and a crinoline dress, she could barely take hold of my arm
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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 05 December 07 07:57 GMT (UK) »

Ah yes, the 'crinoline' skirts.

And who remembers the half-slips made of stiffened net (often layered) to make the skirts stick out more - or made of Vilene.

http://www.fashion-era.com/1950s_glamour.htm#Paper%20Nylon%20And%20Net%20Petticoat%20Support%201950's
(Paper Nylon and Net Petticoat Support 1950s)

For the photo I'm sticking with early 1950s.  The 1950 wedding I mentioned earlier with the almost identical dress would have been right up there with the latest of fashions; the dress was made by the mother of the bride who was a tailor and could not only make clothes using just a photo in a fashion magazine (drafting her own pattern - or just cutting out a dress by sight!) but also made up the most complicated of Vogue patterns.  And none of the people in the 1950 wedding photos had bouffant hairstyles - just fairly natural styles.

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Re: Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 10 January 08 16:14 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Thank you all very much for helping especially Gadget and Slogger.  Slogger solved it for me by identifying the building at the extreme right in the background as the "Fat Ox" Whitley Bay.  I am now confident that the bride is a cousin, who I never met, at her marriage at St Paul's church, Whitley Bay in Spring 1954. 

The recent photograph shows the that the Fat Ox retains the same windows but the gable end seems to have been cleaned up since 1954.  Coming from the right the building next to the Fat Ox is similar to the 1954 building but then a section of the terrace has been completely rebuilt with a different roofline.  Further along the road (off the left of the original picture) the terrace of shops is I think still as it was in 1954 and the roofline and windows more or less match the replaced section shown in the old photograph.

The memorials in the church yard seem to have changed or been moved about a bit since 1954.  I imagine that that sort of thing has happened quite a lot in the recent past as churches try to reduce their maintenance costs or sadly in response to vandalism.

The research triggered a lost memory from another family member - the man in the photograph is not a relative but a friend (work) of the groom.  The bride's father and step-father were both deceased at the time of the wedding and he kindly stepped in to give her away.

Thank you again and a Happy New Year

Gobbo


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Re: Complete thank you - Photograph - when, where and who?
« Reply #40 on: Friday 11 January 08 23:38 GMT (UK) »

Gobbo

This is amazing.

If you remember, I sent the photo to someone I know who married at St Paul's Church, Whitley Bay  and I attended the wedding! She said she didn't recognise your photo!

I assumed that they were walking out of the church and the background people were in the porch area. I couldn't recall it looking like that.  Needless to say that as soon as I looked at your modern photo, I recognised the gates. I even have a photo of me outside it  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

Gadget  Smiley

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