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Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« on: Sunday 02 December 07 23:48 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

I'm looking for informatioin on MARY SUTTIE and JAMES KYD or KIDD -- their births, etc. and their ancestry and family if possible.

Their daughter Isabella b. 1832, Chrichen, Dunichan, d. 1858 Nevay, Parish of Eassie & Nevay. 

In 1855 she married William Johnston of Forfar.

Your assistance will be appreciated.

Regards,   Kathleen
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Canada - DeWOLFE, HALLADAY, HASKINS, HICOCK, JOHNSTON, OLD/OLDS
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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 December 07 19:59 UTC (UK) »

Hello Kathleen,

Isabella was born Isobel Kyd on the 9th of May 1832, and christened on the 13th of that month, in Dunnichen, Angus. Her parents are listed as James Kyd and Mary Suttie. Unfortunately, the IGI (International Genealogical Index) doesn't show any other children for these parents, nor can I see a marriage for them. ScotlandsPeople may reveal more dates, however.

Do you have an occupation for James Kyd/Kidd from Isabella's marriage certificate? I spot a family in 1841, but am unsure if they are yours. Smiley

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 December 07 20:30 UTC (UK) »

Hi,

Thanks for the information and correct spelling.

I don't have any information on the family at all -- only those names.

Kathleen
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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 December 07 20:50 UTC (UK) »

The marriage certificate gives no information on her parents  Undecided

The daeth cert might  Undecided

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 December 07 20:56 UTC (UK) »

Just says Mary Sootie (deceased)  Sad

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 December 07 21:26 UTC (UK) »

Thanks Gadget,

and Happy Easter to you too, I guess.           Grin Grin

Kathleen

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 December 07 21:44 UTC (UK) »

hi pal,

could this be your family?

1841 census- march of lawton or lunabank

james...age 45...shoemaker
mary...age 41
mary..age 15
joseph...age 6
david...age 4
james...age 2
george christie...age 25...tailor
thomas christie...age 19


1851 census- march, inverkeilor

james...age 56...shoemaker...born st.vigeans, forfarshire
mary...age 56...born montrose
jane...age 7...dau...born inverkeilor
john...age 18..visitor..shoe maker
james christie...age 79...visitor...farm lab
alexander boath...lodger...age 32...shoemaker...born brechin


1861 census- 8 high street, arbroath

james...age 66...shoe maker
mary s...age 61
jane...age 17...weaver


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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 December 07 21:45 UTC (UK) »

Hi joe  Smiley

The Mary, nee Sutie/Sootie was dead before 1858 according to Isabella's death cert Sad

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 December 07 21:46 UTC (UK) »

hi gadget,

just saw the igi's and that mary was mary christie......



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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #9 on: Monday 03 December 07 21:47 UTC (UK) »

Wrong one then  Undecided

Any sign of Isabella (variations) on the 1841 with parents/grandparents?

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #10 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:00 UTC (UK) »

Just a note to say those were the same that I found. Sad And likewise, I found the Christie name.

Kathleen, perhaps you could view the original OPR on ScotlandsPeople for the 1832 birth? It may give an occupation for James? Huh

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #11 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:05 UTC (UK) »

It says:

13th May - James Kyd, farm servant at Ovenstone (?) in the parish of Inverarity and Mary Suttie in this parish both persons unmarried had a child baptised ..Isobel.  May 1832

So Isobel(la) could be with her mother, grandparents or anywhere in the 1841.

Maybe look for Suttie/Sootie/variations.


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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #12 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:10 UTC (UK) »

hi gadget,

kingsmuir , forfar

david kyd...age 60...weaver
isabell..age 58
ann...age 34...servant
bell...age 9
helen roberts...age 16...servant


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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #13 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:13 UTC (UK) »

That could be James'  parents  and Bell (Isabel) - well done, Joe Smiley

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #14 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:16 UTC (UK) »

Indeed. Well done, Joe, sheer hard work on that one. Smiley

Wonder if this is them? David Kid weds Isobel Robert in 1800 in Dunnichen. They have son, James (Kyd), born 1812 in Forfar.

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