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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #15 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:18 UTC (UK) »
looks good, Hume

Any sign of Mary Sutie/Sootie?

I'll go take a look but she might have died early on  Undecided

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #16 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:24 UTC (UK) »
Marriage/Banns showing for a Mary Suttie and James Caird - Barry and Panbride, Angus 21 Sept and 12th October 1833.

Could this be Mary  Undecided 

Also wondering about Caird->Kyd !
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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #17 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:25 UTC (UK) »
Hi,

Joe, Gadget, and Hume,

Great work you're doing to help me with this.

I was away for a time because I had to dig out the 12" or so of snow from my front door, my walkway, and my car.

I'll read through your information now.

Thanks,    Kathleen
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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #18 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:31 UTC (UK) »
hi all,

1851 census- south kingmuir

david kyd...age 69...weaver...born oathlaw c1782
isobel...age 69...born dunnichen c1782
ann...age 48...weaver...born dunnichen c1802
isobel...age 18...weaver...grand-daughter


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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #19 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:32 UTC (UK) »
must ask if this address matches the one given on the marriage cert of 1855?

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #20 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:33 UTC (UK) »
I'll check that , Joe

The Mary Suttie who married James Caird died 1888, aged 77, Barru, Angus  Undecided
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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #21 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:37 UTC (UK) »
Wow!  Looks promising.

I don't have a ScotlandsPeople account at the moment, which is why I'm stymied.

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #22 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:38 UTC (UK) »
This is what the residence says - don't worry, Kathleen. i think I've got most of them  Smiley

* IsKyd.jpg (17.73 KB, 417x171 - viewed 99 times.)
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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #23 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:42 UTC (UK) »
Gadge,

Thank you, thank you.

I can see Parish of Forfar, but not sure of the other words.

Kathleen
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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #24 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:43 UTC (UK) »
Kathleen

Did you get that Isobel was illegitimate?
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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #25 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:45 UTC (UK) »
Yes, I saw that.

(Actually, I always thought it a cruel label, but that's for discussion elsewhere.)


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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #26 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:47 UTC (UK) »
Yes, it is but there are other descriptions that I like less  Undecided
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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #27 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:49 UTC (UK) »
I see Caddam, Parish of Forfar as her location.

Still not seeing anything for Mary. Undecided I saw the marriage to James Caird, but I wasn't sure about it, given that it wasn't listed on the marriage certificate. However, it not always is! There's also the issue of the death details. Again, Undecided

Quick summary of the Kydds, though?

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David Kidd (born 1776 in Oathlaw, son of William) weds Isobel Robert (born 1778 in Dunnichen, dau. of Charles R and Mary Weir) in 1800, Dunnichen. They have a son, James (born 1812 in Forfar) who has a daughter, Isobel (born 1832 in Dunnichen), with Mary Suttie/Souttie.

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #28 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:51 UTC (UK) »
I'll check for a marriage of James Kydd...

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Re: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd
« Reply #29 on: Monday 03 December 07 22:54 UTC (UK) »
Hume,

I knew from a relative's notes that Isobel was born in

Dunnichen, so it looks like the right one.

Kathleen
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