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Topic: Mary Suttie, James Kyd Kidd (Read 2317 times)
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Gadget
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1891
Caldhame Rd, Forfar
Rd 288 Ed 28 Page 7
James Kydd, 82, living on private means, b. Dunnichen
Catherine, 77, b. Carmyllie
Betsy Dick, 12, boarder, scholar, b.Forfar
Betsy Byars, 10, boarder, scholar, b.Forfar
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hume
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I'm sure I searched for Catherine too, just in case. Well done. 
Just to add, Catherine died 1898, aged 83, in Forfar.
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Gadget
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I've searched and searched for Mary Suttie/Sootie, etc. but can find no sign of a birth or death. There was a male Suttie in Dunnichen having children in the early 1830s who might be worth investigating. It could be a brother 
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adee7
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I mentioned to a friend that we couldn't find Mary Suttie's information and she offered some help as I've done for her in the searchings.
She found 1851 Scotland Census -- Arbroath Parish
Mary Suttie, 45,
b. Abt 1806 Monifieth, Forfar
Servant in the home of William and Jane Scott
Address: Back Abbey Street #11
This could be her.
Kathleen
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England and Belfast - GOFF, GOUGH, MATHERS, MOXHAM/MOXAM, OSMOND, PHILLIPS, WINDER, WYKES
Scotland - JOHNSTON, DORWARD, KIDD, KYD, RAMSAY, RAE
Canada - DeWOLFE, HALLADAY, HASKINS, HICOCK, JOHNSTON, OLD/OLDS
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hume
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Hi Gadget,
Are we talking about William Suttie, 48 in 1851? If so, he was born 1802 in Monifieth, Angus. Parents were William Suttie and Mary Findlay. He did have a sister named Mary, born 1806, also in Monifieth. I'll try and find her on the census.
hume24
We were both typing at the same time, Kathleen. I think it's a possible.
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Gadget
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I think that's the one, Hume.
William Suttie and Catherine Ramsay had the following children, Dunichen:
1831 - Agnes
1833 - Elizabeth
1835 - William
William Suttie and Margaret Sturrock had the following children, Dunichen:
1835 - James
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adee7
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Again, many thanks, Gadget and Hume
I guess I shouldn't be surprised to see the names
Ramsay and Sturrock, as there are other
Johnston connections with those.
Regards,
Kathleen
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Gadget
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I know Mary was supposed to have been dead by 1858 but this looks interesting:
18th May 1881
Death, Monikie
Mary Suttie, fomerly domestic servant, single, aged 72.
Parents - William Suttie, crofter, dec. and Mary m.s. Findlay.
Informant - James Suttie, Brother
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hume
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I'm amazed how you find these certificates.  Mary in 1881 and 1871:
1881 Address: Guildie, Monikie, Angus
James Suttie, m, head, 65, farmer of 14 acres, Monifieth, Forfarshire
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Mary Suttie, f, sister, 74, -, Monifieth, Forfarshire
1871 Address: 24 Clerk St, Brechin, Angus
Mary Sutter [sic], f, head, 54, housekeeper, Monifieth, Forfarshire
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Gadget
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It's my Scots blood, hume
PS - is there anything we've missed 
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adee7
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Isn't it possible that there was misinformation on Isobel's 1858 death certificate when it was stated that her mother was deceased?
Could such a thing happen?
No, I don't think you've missed anything.
Regards,
Kathleen
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adee7
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For sure.
Now, with all this help, Mary Suttie is no longer
'unknown', and that's terrific.
Kathleen
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