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Topic: ayr deaths 1820 to1854 vol 13 (Read 12716 times)
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elaine447
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Hi Donna
could you see if there are any Given/Givens there
I would also be interested in some of the Wylie names you have
found I am not sure but I think gggggrandmother Agnes Wylie lived in ayrshire
before coming to Port Glasgow
thanks
Elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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crystalight
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 Thank You so much for looking Donna,
This particular Alexander had a son so I think that rules him out, but it may fit in somewhere else.
I have just realised that I did not ask about his son James, but he was living in Forfar  and his sons were James, Thomas, John and William, who I know went to Barbados and I have details for.
 The Wyllies seem to have had quite a large family in Ayrshire, descending from the Laird of Gallowberry, Stewarton Parish - William Wyllie or Wylie born 1560.
I have a few Agnes Wyllies, Elaine what year are we looking for One of them was buried in Stewarton cemetery 28-10-1890 aged 8, her mother was Elizabeth who was also buried there19-2-1918 aged 75 with two of her sons as well.
Thanks again Crystal
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elaine447
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Hi Crystal
gggggrandmother was Agnes Wylie born 1826 in Ireland
I am not sure of the rest of the family apart from Alexander being her brother
I think his birthdate is 1823 dont know anything else about him
I have traced some of gggggranfathers (Given ) family to Ayrshire
wondered if this is where the Wylies and the Given's met
Elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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dmp1964
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hi crystal,
i will put up all the wylies there is,they may be of use to you
margaret wylie,died 2 june 1840,wife of john skimming,mason,age 56, apoplectic fit
agnes wylie,died 2 aug 1830,daur of john wylie,writer,age 5 yr 6 mths, consumption
alexander wylie,died 15 oct 1853,over mill, age 7,scarlet fever
andrew wylie,died 27 dec 1825,weaver,age 70,stones
anne wylie,died 5 jan 1847,main street,newton,age 23,consumption
elizabeth wylie,died 6 feb 1835,daur of late john wylie,writer,age 3, consumption
elizabeth wylie,died 1 oct 1830 ,daur of john wylie,waiter,age 8,consumption
elizabeth wylie,died 14 mar 1833,ms murdoch,relict of wm wylie,labourer,age 58,consumption
elizabeth wylie,died 7 mar 1825,ms morrson,wife of andrew wylie,age 70, fraility
francis wylie,died 13 jan 1844,high street,age 2, whooping cough
hugh wylie,died 20 oct 1853,over mill,age 3,scarlet fever
hugh wylie,died 9 may 1835,farmer,burnbank,age 55, mortification
isabella wylie,died 26 july 1837,relict of john murray,flesher,age 74,decay of nature
james wylie,died 16 may 1847,mill street,age 24,dropsy
james wylie,died 15 nov 1844,weaver row,newton,age 4 mths,bowel hive
janet wylie,died 15 mar 1824,ms ferguson,wife of david,carrier,age 47,consumption
janet wylie,died 31 oct 1850,high street ,age 54 ,palsy
janet wylie,died 20 sep 1849,high street,age 6 mths,
jean wylie,died 2 jan 1830,wife of james johnston,shoemaker,age 47,dropsy
jean wylie,died 5 sep 1835,a stranger,age 63
jean wylie,died 29 jan 1833,wife of wm craik,labourer,age 70,asthma
john wylie,died 17 mar 1844,high street,age 1 yr 4 mths,teething fever
john wylie,died 29 aug 1829,son of john wylie ,writer,age 2
john wylie,died 23 jan 1835,writer,age 54 apoplexy
margaret wylie ,died 24 feb 1841,daur of wm wylie,age 7 mths,whooping cough
mrs wylie,died 24 jujy 1841,high street,age 75,palsy
robert wylie,died 1 mar 1841,son of wm wylie,weaver,age 2 yr 6 mths,
robert wylie,died 3 july 1849,mill street,age 3 yr 8 mths,bowel hive
widow wylie,died 29 dec 1825,alias janet hodgen,age 73,decay of nature
william wylie,died 19 apr 1821,son of hugh wylie,burnt bank,age 8 yr 6 mth
hope some of them are of use to you
donna
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dmp1964
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Hi Donna
could you see if there are any Given/Givens there
I would also be interested in some of the Wylie names you have
found I am not sure but I think gggggrandmother Agnes Wylie lived in ayrshire
before coming to Port Glasgow
thanks
Elaine
hi elaine this is all the givans
......givan,died 20 apr 1831,child of elizabeth givan,still born
widow givan,died 27 jan 1847,poorhouse,age 82,decay of nature
catherine givans,died 19 nov 1820,poorhouse,age 75,insanity
elizabeth givans,died 9 mar 1830,wife of wm murdoch,wheelwright,age 57, consumption
margaret givans,died 5 apr 1832,wife of malcolm mcmillan ,sailor,age 40,palsy
marion givans,died 8 sep 1834,relict of wm park,labourer,age 88,decay of nature
martha givans,died 4 july 1853,kyle street,age 35,decline
donna
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elaine447
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Thank you very much Donna
some of the dates coincide with what I already have
so I will definately check them out
and thanks for the Wylie one's too a lot of the names
are similar to my wylies
Elaine
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Given,McCorkindale,Kennaway,Wylie,Cameron,Mooney,McCloskey,Black,
McCafferty,Gillespie,Jamieson,Keith,Adam,Quigley,Ainslie,
McHugh,Malone,Fisher,Burns,Gallacher,Nelson,Dunleavy,Brannan,
Docherty,McCluskey,Fitzpatrick,Barclay, Peacock
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scully
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HI Donna,
Thanks once again for looking up the death.
Regards
Scully
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crystalight
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Wow Donna that's some list, thank you so much for all that effort 
I will see if I can match any up now, a couple look likely.
Reading the causes of death, don't things change I can see where the phrase about being mortified comes from now.
Elaine, I have had a quick look through all my notes and as yet can not find a link to Givens but that's not to say it's not there
The Wyllies seem to have scattered far and wide around the world in the later part of 1800's, America, Barbados, Burma, India, South Africa, Australia, Italy and Cuba to name a few, some becoming very prominent people of their time.
Kind regards Crystal
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TheWhuttle
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Hi Donna,
This is a nice service that you are offering!
Could you check this person out for me?
James Balvaird LATIMER
[Not in the civil registers after 1855.
Known to be alive in 1813.
Sisters Margaret, Mary, Jane died in Edinburgh in 1840s.
Sister Catherine married James BALVAIRD.
JBL might have been connected with the horse racing in Ayr.]
Ta,
Capt Jock
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TheWhuttle
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Donna,
Many thanks for the rapid reply - greatly appreciated.
Can I take it that that is literally what it says in the register?!
[i.e. "suddenly", and e.g. no home address given.]
Good to get birth year as 1786/1787.
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The occupation certainly fits in well.
His father, Christopher LATIMER, was "onetime Collector of Excise for the Paddington District". His brother-in-law, James BALVAIRD (d.1815) , was "General Examiner of Excise".
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It is interesting to speculate why he died at Ayr in 1834?
There is a family connection with the area, but it is later.
His cousin (once removed), Latimer WHITTLE, married Anne Steen KELLY in Coylton near Ayr on 20-SEP-1847.
[This too happened "suddenly", with the Banns only posted 2 days earlier!]
Hmm, maybe that young Elizabeth that you found, who died earlier that year, was a natural child of theirs?
[There seems to have been quite a nest of KELLYs in Coylton. They may well have been horse traders or trainers.]
LW was based at Oldstone near Antrim/Muckamore in Co Antrim in Ireland, where large horse fairs were held regularly, with buyers from England and Scotland attending.
[LW apparently lost a lot of money/property on the horses over the years, retiring to Jamaica even there struggling to retain the plantations that his grandfather Richard LATIMER had built up.]
Perhaps JBL was meeting up with LW (then just turned 21) at Ayr for a celebratory day at the races, and just got too overcome by the sight of so much non-taxable cash floating around!
Capt Jock
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