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Windsor87
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Re: oh no!
« Reply #15 on: Wednesday 21 May 08 12:45 BST (UK) » |
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My great great grandparents were also first cousins. They lived in a small (very clannish) village. Were that not enough, their great grandmother married her second cousin. Furthermore, her grandparents were also second cousins. I think it would be best, for the sanity of any children, if I married away from the town!
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Strachan, Connon, Watt, Beattie, Noble, Watt, Sinclair, Garden, Birnie, Wilson, Christie, Gatt, Watson, Sim, Ross, McWilliam, Middleton, Burr, Johnston, Munro, West, Porter, Trail, Bruce, Peddie, Kemp, Smith, Ewen, Kerr, Grieve, Whyte, Ritchie, Mackie, Jamieson, Barron, Grant, Robertson, McKay, Hadden, Forbes, Walls, Shepherd, McDonald, Duncan, Gray, Will, Thomson, Lascelles, Brown, Anderson, Doherty...
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Bryson, Harkness, Scott, Roddick, Armstrong
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charlotteCH
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Re: oh no!
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 21 May 08 12:48 BST (UK) » |
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Probably illegal to singsuch a song these days.
EU must have a rule about it.
charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, MIDGLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, BIGFORD, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
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sharmar
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Re: oh no!
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 21 May 08 13:34 BST (UK) » |
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Several instances in my family as well!!!
Explains why there are some strange looking ones (not me I hasten to add) 
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charlotteCH
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 21 May 08 13:44 BST (UK) » |
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Several instances in my family as well!!! Explains why there are some strange looking ones ( not me I hasten to add)
Of course not sharmar, we never thought that.
charlotte
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HARGREAVES, HANSON, BAILEY, BURTON, HEWITT, JAGGER, LOCKWOOD, UTTLEY, MIDGLEY, RUDD, TAYLOR, HOLDEN, SHAW Halifax / Sowerby/ Southowram 18C+
GILL, Accrington, Blackburn, West Derby, Lancs, migrated USA 1891 to RI: GILL in SC: HOTCHKISS in RI: PELOQUIN in RI
HUMPHRIES, HILLIER, ALLEN, LYDBURY Nunney/Frome 18-19C
HUMPHRIES, BIGFORD, JOYCE, HEWITT, ROBINSON, McMULLEN, SUFFEL, CARNEY, MARRON, COMPTON, FREEMAN Ont. Canada 1830+
82nd Regt of Foot 1808-1825
1st WRY Militia 1780-1808
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ninkynoo
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« Reply #20 on: Saturday 31 May 08 12:10 BST (UK) » |
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I always thought I was related to my daughters ex Mother-in-law through my Dads side of the family (turns out only through marriage).Now I find that we ARE related through my Mothers side.
So ,that makes me a 5th cousin once removed to my Grand daughter .
Mmmmm ,best stop looking or it could turn out there may be another connection.
Needless to say ,daughters ex Mother in law and me find it really funny.
Lin
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Field ,Warren.Davis, Spickett ,Peppiatt ,Bucks
White born Dorset moved to Hampshire,Shropshire and finally to Essex
Katherine Murphy b1872
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nudge67
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Re: oh no!
« Reply #21 on: Tuesday 03 June 08 22:31 BST (UK) » |
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I can match that; I am my own fourth cousin once removed.
Behindthefrogs, you should post that in the 'Claim a Record' thread under 'Most Inbred'! 
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19th century South Australian pioneers: Bowyer, Cassidy, Chesson, Davey, Degenhardt, Edwards, Floate, Hornsby, Jones, Ladner, Markey, McFeat, Messenger, Mills, Pike, Rees, Rhodes, Sibley, Tyler, Vivian, Wallis, Waye, Willoughby.
Other antipodean immigrants.
New Zealand: Hadland, Bailey, Pickett
Queensland: Gummow, Kleine, Urmson
Victoria: Caudwell
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nudge67
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 08:49 BST (UK) » |
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Excerpt from a letter I recently sent my parents:
"Dear Mum & Dad
I have discovered that you both have a common ancestor in John de Braose (1198-1232), Lord of Bramber (in Sussex) and Gower (in Wales). Attached is a printout of how you both trace back to him, as well as a short bio of his life. His wife Margaret was a daughter of Llywelyn, Prince of Wales, whose wife Joane was an illegitimate daughter of King John. So now you both have lines of royal descent. Look in the library for the historical novel Here Be Dragons by Sharon Penman, it is based on the life of these people and is a very good read.
This therefore makes you in geneological terms 23rd cousins, once removed. The attached Table of Consanguinity http://www.heirsearch.com/table.htm may help explain how cousin terminology works, if you didn’t already understand it. It also shows the degrees of relationship. Most cultures regard anyone within 7 degrees of relationship to be family, and intermarrige with relatives of 4 degrees or less, or sharing the same surname, is strictly taboo. Remote communities with a population less than 1500 struggle to find suitable partners, so have developed intricate rules of marriage to prevent inbreeding. This is evident in some Aboriginal language groups, as well many small island societies around the world, such as Easter Island. "
Cheers
Nudge
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19th century South Australian pioneers: Bowyer, Cassidy, Chesson, Davey, Degenhardt, Edwards, Floate, Hornsby, Jones, Ladner, Markey, McFeat, Messenger, Mills, Pike, Rees, Rhodes, Sibley, Tyler, Vivian, Wallis, Waye, Willoughby.
Other antipodean immigrants.
New Zealand: Hadland, Bailey, Pickett
Queensland: Gummow, Kleine, Urmson
Victoria: Caudwell
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nudge67
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 04 June 08 11:06 BST (UK) » |
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years ago, i was being chatted up in Brisbane by a lovely young lass who I discovered shared my surname. I asked where she came from. When I found out she was from Mt Gambier, I said "If you are an Edwards from Mt Gambier, then we are cousins of some sort". That was embarrasing for both of us!
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19th century South Australian pioneers: Bowyer, Cassidy, Chesson, Davey, Degenhardt, Edwards, Floate, Hornsby, Jones, Ladner, Markey, McFeat, Messenger, Mills, Pike, Rees, Rhodes, Sibley, Tyler, Vivian, Wallis, Waye, Willoughby.
Other antipodean immigrants.
New Zealand: Hadland, Bailey, Pickett
Queensland: Gummow, Kleine, Urmson
Victoria: Caudwell
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KathMc
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday 15 June 08 01:27 BST (UK) » |
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This thread is too funny. I can't say I have found this yet, but I have a picture of my maternal grandmother at about 4 and she is the spitting image of me at the same age, but I look exactly like my dad. Since I received the pic, I have said my parents were related.
Kath
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Wexford and Staffordshire: Hayes, McClean
Galway and Staffordshire: Scott
Coventry: Wells, Collins, Palmer, Moody, Beck, Mickelwright, Husbands
Ireland: McNulty (Sligo), Kealy, Murphy (Carlow) Connolly, Gillen, Powell, Ryan, Moore, Martin
Davis from I don't know where originally
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LissaM
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Re: oh no!
« Reply #28 on: Sunday 15 June 08 02:52 BST (UK) » |
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When I was a little kid, I asked my Mom, "why do my Dad's nieces/nephews call your Mom and Dad Aunt and Uncle " ...... my Mom replied the kind of answer you give a kid when you want to end the conversation and want them to go away ......"oh look!!!! there a puppy out in the yard ........"
A few years ago I discovered "the puppy"....nothing too sorted ........ years in therapy were not required.......or not because of this, anyway 
My father's mother is the daughter of my mother's grandfather's 1st wife who died.
I would need help figuring out the cousins removed bit!
lissa
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Jean McGurn
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Re: oh no!
« Reply #29 on: Sunday 15 June 08 07:36 BST (UK) » |
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I have discovered that you both have a common ancestor in John de Braose (1198-1232), Lord of Bramber (in Sussex) and Gower (in Wales). Attached is a printout of how you both trace back to him, as well as a short bio of his life. His wife Margaret was a daughter of Llywelyn, Prince of Wales, whose wife Joane was an illegitimate daughter of King John. So now you both have lines of royal descent
Nudge
Having done research into William de Braose (the first Lord of Bramber) I can also say that the de Braose lineage also goes via a female to the Earl Marshall of England the Duke of Norfolk who lives in Arundel Castle.
Can't quote which female it was as I have passed all my research to the newly formed Parish History Group. However I do remember that one of the women married into the Mowbray family thence onto the Norfolk's
Jean
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