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SUTHERLAND FAMILY ON CENSUS
« on: Saturday 01 January 05 21:18 GMT (UK) »
Can anyone help or advise?  Looking for Alexander SUTHERLAND and his family.  I found them in 1841 in Latheron as:  Alexander SUTHERLAND age 30 - spirit dealer. Margaret (nee MORE) age 25.  Children: Caithren age 5, Alexander age 4, Margerry age 2.  All born Caithness.  There is also a Margerry age 55 born Caithness with them (wonder if this is Alexander's mother?).  I would like to find them in future years and also find Alexander's parents. 

Any help very much appreciated.

Kay Prosser


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Re: SUTHERLAND FAMILY ON CENSUS
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 02 January 05 11:57 GMT (UK) »
Hiya Kay,

Do you have the 1881 families for Latheron?  There are lots of Alexander Sutherlands (160 born in Caithness).  Very possibly they are all related.
Let me know and I'll post them.

Is this your one?

Dwelling:   Upper Lybster
Census Place:   Latheron, Caithness, Scotland
Source:   FHL Film 0203401     GRO Ref    Volume 038    EnumDist 5    Page 13

Alexander SUTHERLAND  M  74  M  Latheron, Caithness
Rel:   Head
Occ:   Crofter

Margaret SUTHERLAND  M 72 F  Latheron, Caithness
Rel:   Wife
Occ:   Wife Of Crofter

Catherine SUTHERLAND  U  41  F  Latheron, Caithness
Rel:   Daur
Occ:   Dom Serv

John SUTHERLAND   9 M Latheron, Caithness
Rel:   G Son
Occ:   Scholar

Margaret SUTHERLAND  8 F Latheron, Caithness
Rel:   G Daur
Occ:   Scholar

Emelia BAIN W 70 F Latheron, Caithness
Rel:   Lodger   Handicap: Blind
Occ:   Annuitant

If this is your family then I truly recommend you go onto http://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/

As you will find the deaths of both Alexander and Margaret which may open up other generations.


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Re: SUTHERLAND FAMILY ON CENSUS
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 January 05 05:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi Pam

I don't have access to the 1881 Latheron census but I think you have found my family.   Alexander and Margaret had a son called Alexander Sutherland also who was born in 1837 - I wondered if the grandchildren could be his?  They could of course belong to Catherine who is 41 and unmarried according to this census.  Problem is though that I have her married and living in Edinburgh on the 1881 census and she would be 46.  Bit of a puzzle.  I would be interested in the other Alexander Sutherlands that you have.  Kay
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Re: SUTHERLAND FAMILY ON CENSUS
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 13:23 BST (UK) »
Hi
Margaret MORE is one of my family of MORE.

I haven't explored his side  but have the following:
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 Alexander SUTHERLAND was born in 1809 (approx.).  He was a Fisherman.  He married Margaret MORE in 1834 in Wick, CAI, SCT.  He died on 9 June 1861.  He was buried in Mid Clyth, Caithness.  Mid Clyth Cemetery Alex also son Angus also on stone. No45.
He married1834 in Wick.
Margaret MORE,1 daughter of Donald MORE (1781-1866) and Catherine RYRIE (1791-bef1860), was born on 3 January 1814 in Wick, CAI, SCT.  The address was: Village of Sarclet.  She died of Cerebral Softening /Senile Decay on 5 August 1893 in Ulbster District of Wick, Caithness, Scotland.2  The address was: Ulbster.  Died at 5pm. James Sutherland, son-in-law, Ulbster was informant.

1861 census Latheron East Clyth
SUTHERLAND Alexander Head M M 52 Fisherman
SUTHERLAND Margaret Wife M F 47 Do Wife
SUTHERLAND Elizabeth Daur U F 18 Do Daur
SUTHERLAND Janet Daur U F 11 Do Daur
SUTHERLAND Margaret Daur U F 9 Do Daur
SUTHERLAND Angus Son U M 7 Do Son
MORE Janet Visitor U F 30 Herring Net Weaver

Alexander SUTHERLAND - Alex died in 1861 aged52/53 and buried with wife and son Angus at Mid Clyth Cem.  His wife is Margaret MORE. 
43/00 0005.

Margaret MORE and Alexander SUTHERLAND had several children:

One was    Angus SUTHERLAND (1855?-1876).   Angus was born in 1855 (approx.).  He died on 4 July 1876 in Mid Clyth, Caithness.  He was buried in mid Clyth, Caithness.
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He was a fisherman.  Is the 1841 census  entry correct - there are so many Alex Sutherland.

Regards
Tricia
BAILEY    (HAM/Portsmouth Portsea/1800s);
CORMACK    (CAI/Watten Wick/fam of Magnus C & Jean Taylor m 1739);
CORMACK    (DUR/Sunderland area 1800s/orig from CAI, SCT, 1700s);
JOHNSTON    (CAI/../All);
JOHNSTON    (ARL/Kirn Dunoon/circa 1800 - onwards);
JOHNSTON    (ELN/Prestonpans Tranent/fam of William Johnston Janet Forman);
MCDOUGAL     (ARL/MULL/pre1800 Neil McDougall Effy McPhail);
MCDOUGALL    (INV/Laggan/pre 1800 in Mull Argyll then INV etc);
MORE    (CAI/Wick Sarclet Thurso Orkney/1600

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Re: SUTHERLAND FAMILY ON CENSUS
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 03 May 05 16:03 BST (UK) »
Here is a 1841 census - Margaret was b 1814 but her death in 1893 shows her as 82 .  The ages on this 1841 census are more often a few years adrift. 

 Piece: SCT1841/38 Place: Latheron-Caithness Enumeration District: 4
Civil Parish: Latheron Ecclesiastical Parish, Village or Island: -
Folio: 0 Page: 13
Address: Achnataft

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    Surname   First name(s)   Sex   Age   Occupation   Where Born   Remarks   
    SUTHERLAND   Alexander   M   25   Fisher    Caithness         
    SUTHERLAND   Margaret   F   30       Caithness         
    SUTHERLAND   -  not known M   14days       Caithness     Forename enumerated as "n.k."

Happy to exchange info.
Margaret More's Alex Sutherland was dead in 1861. Marg died 1893 so I think in  1881 she was staying with son James in Wick - I have to check that out.
What info do you have for Alexander Sutherland.
Tricia
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JOHNSTON    (CAI/../All);
JOHNSTON    (ARL/Kirn Dunoon/circa 1800 - onwards);
JOHNSTON    (ELN/Prestonpans Tranent/fam of William Johnston Janet Forman);
MCDOUGAL     (ARL/MULL/pre1800 Neil McDougall Effy McPhail);
MCDOUGALL    (INV/Laggan/pre 1800 in Mull Argyll then INV etc);
MORE    (CAI/Wick Sarclet Thurso Orkney/1600

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Re: SUTHERLAND FAMILY ON CENSUS
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 03:21 BST (UK) »
Hi Tricia

Now I am wondering about that 1841 census entry that I found that had Alexander Sutherland as a spirit dealer???  I have him born around 1811 to Margerry  (don't know her maiden name or who she married).  I have Margaret More born 3 Jan 1814 to the same parents that you have for her.  For their children I have Catherine, Alexander and Margerry.  Catherine I have married to James Harrold Weir.  I have Alexander on the 1881 census in Upper Lybster as a crofter and that is all I have on him.  I have Margaret with 7 siblings (John, Donald, Angus, Elizabeth, James, Janet, Alexander).  Do you think we have the same family?

Kay
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Re: SUTHERLAND FAMILY ON CENSUS
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 04 May 05 15:53 BST (UK) »
Hi Kay
Death Certificate.
Alexander (farmer and fisherman) husband of Margaret More
died 1961 aged 53 in Bruan Parish of Latheron -
he was son of Alexander Sutherland, farmer, and Marg?  Reid . 
Informant was cousin Alexander Sutherland a cousin living at Forse.
What confirmed info do you have for your Alex.
More later.
Tricia
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CORMACK    (CAI/Watten Wick/fam of Magnus C & Jean Taylor m 1739);
CORMACK    (DUR/Sunderland area 1800s/orig from CAI, SCT, 1700s);
JOHNSTON    (CAI/../All);
JOHNSTON    (ARL/Kirn Dunoon/circa 1800 - onwards);
JOHNSTON    (ELN/Prestonpans Tranent/fam of William Johnston Janet Forman);
MCDOUGAL     (ARL/MULL/pre1800 Neil McDougall Effy McPhail);
MCDOUGALL    (INV/Laggan/pre 1800 in Mull Argyll then INV etc);
MORE    (CAI/Wick Sarclet Thurso Orkney/1600

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Re: SUTHERLAND FAMILY ON CENSUS
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 05 May 05 18:56 BST (UK) »
RE MESSAGE :Death Certificate.
Alexander (farmer and fisherman) husband of Margaret More
died 1961 aged 53 in Bruan Parish of Latheron

Should have read he died 1861 otherwise he was very old.     :-[
BAILEY    (HAM/Portsmouth Portsea/1800s);
CORMACK    (CAI/Watten Wick/fam of Magnus C & Jean Taylor m 1739);
CORMACK    (DUR/Sunderland area 1800s/orig from CAI, SCT, 1700s);
JOHNSTON    (CAI/../All);
JOHNSTON    (ARL/Kirn Dunoon/circa 1800 - onwards);
JOHNSTON    (ELN/Prestonpans Tranent/fam of William Johnston Janet Forman);
MCDOUGAL     (ARL/MULL/pre1800 Neil McDougall Effy McPhail);
MCDOUGALL    (INV/Laggan/pre 1800 in Mull Argyll then INV etc);
MORE    (CAI/Wick Sarclet Thurso Orkney/1600

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Re: SUTHERLAND FAMILY ON CENSUS
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 28 March 06 16:05 BST (UK) »
Can anyone help or advise?  Looking for Alexander SUTHERLAND and his family.  I found them in 1841 in Latheron as:  Alexander SUTHERLAND age 30 - spirit dealer. Margaret (nee MORE) age 25.  Children: Caithren age 5, Alexander age 4, Margerry age 2.  All born Caithness.  There is also a Margerry age 55 born Caithness with them (wonder if this is Alexander's mother?).  I would like to find them in future years and also find Alexander's parents. 

Any help very much appreciated.

Kay Prosser