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poppysmum
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I have found an ancestor called Robert Gibson, born crawford lanarkshire, working at this school in 1901. The census says he was an officer anda noncertified teacher.
Does anyone know anything about this school?
Also, it seems like avery long journey for him to have made to find work, does anyone have any ideas about that?
Thanks, Caroline
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Hello Caroline,
I live in Aberdeen. Oakbank was, I believe founded in 1878 as an Industrial School. It's now an establishment for young people with 'behavioural disorders'.
The following 3 links will give a flavour what the rationale behing the Industrial Schools was all about. I decided not to cut and paste the info. In the short search I did, it reminded me of how lucky I am. The 3rd takes you to an e-book entitled 'Scotland in the Nineteenth Century'.
Regarding the distance - I'd a relative who was born up Banff way- probably the same age as 'your' Robert' . He was a police constable in Edinburgh then resigned and ended up as an Inspector for boarded out children in Aberdeen ( 3 of his brothers emigrated to the USA. A couple of other relatives before that in the 1820/30's were in Jamaica. Force of circumstance, ambition take your choice - we'll probably never know. I hope he'd a happy life.
Regards, Steve :O)
http://www.bl.uk/learning/histcitizen/21cc/crime/youth1/punishment1/industrial1/industrial.html
http://www.learningcurve.gov.uk/prisoner4099/behind-the-scenes/tim-industrial.htm
http://gdl.cdlr.strath.ac.uk/haynin/haynin0211.htm
Do you know what happened to him or do you just have the info from the 1901 census? Do you know where he died? did he get married etc.....
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Thought I'd add this map
If you go to http://www.nls.uk/maps/early/scotland.cfm?id=1209 you should be on a page with a clickable map 'Plate 67 of J.G Bartholamew's 'Survey Atlas of Scotland, 1912'
Click on it you can zoom in. Click only a couple of times and you should be able to see Westburn Park. To the left of that in Aberdeen today, you have the Aberdeen Royal Infirmary Complex. And to the south of Westburn Road, you've got Oakbank Industrial School.
I've attached a section of that map. It's a matter of doing a right click and save for the section you want.
Regards, Steve
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Roxburgh: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson
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Hi
Thanks for that!
All I know about him is that when his sister died in lanarkshire in 1947, the nformant is her sister in law, Janet Gibson, 90 Stanley street, Aberdeen. I am assuming this is Thomas's wife but I'm not 100% sure.
I can't see his deth on scotlands People and he was born in 1880 so he could have lived past the 1956 cut off.
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I've some research of my own to do at the Registrars in Aberdeen in a couple of weeks time, so shall spend a few mins getting info if possible.. Do you have a d.o.b or birth entry, and parents name for him?
I'll look for a marriage and death for him. Also any children.
Regards, Steve
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Thanks for the offer 
Hw was Thomas Gibson, born around 1880 in crawford , lanarkshire. His father was Thomas Gibson, farmer and his mother Mary Anderson. I think his wife was called Janet and that at some point he lived at 90 Stanley Street, Aberdeen.
Thanks, caroline
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Hello
Was in the Registrars today. Couldn't find a Robert Gibson born in 1880 - nearest in Crawford was in 1872. The person in the search room used the IGI, using the search tab and entering the parents names, and 8 children came up born to a Thomas Gibson and a Mary Anderson.
I've got the extract which shows that the father is Thomas Gibson a farmer and mother Mary Gibson (M.S Anderson) Living at a place called North Schot?bugh in the District of Crawford. Also in turn have a copy of their marriage entry - from Nov 1863 - very poor quality.
Couldn't find him in the 1901 census in Aberdeen. Do you have details. We ran out of time. If you PM me I can send you the copies. Regards, Steve :O)
1. THOMAS GIBSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 02 SEP 1863 Colvend, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
2. ISABELLA MARION GIBSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 16 APR 1861 Colvend, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
3. JOHN GIBSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 29 JUL 1859 Colvend, Kirkcudbright, Scotland
4. JANE GIBSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 27 JAN 1866 Crawford, Lanark, Scotland
5. JANET GIBSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 20 JUL 1867 Crawford, Lanark, Scotland
6. ADAM GIBSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 07 SEP 1873 Crawford, Lanark, Scotland
7. MARY GIBSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 17 MAR 1869 Crawford, Lanark, Scotland
8. ROBERT GIBSON - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 03 JUN 1872 Crawford, Lanark, Scotland
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Hi
Yes, North Shortcleugh is the name of the place they lived. I wsan't sure if the Kirkcudbright births were theirs as well but now i think they might be.
Ok he was born in 1872.
The address for the 1901 census is
'Oakbank Industrial School fro Boys, Mid Stocket row, Aberdeen.
Thomas Gibson 21 Teacher, b.crawford.
Now, that doesn't totally add up with his birth date, but in the 1891 census where he is still living with his parents, he is 11 and in 1881 he is 1, so I am a little confused  (this happens to me a lot!)
In 1947 his sister Georgina died and her death certificate is signed by her sister in law Janet Gibson, 90 stanley street, aberdeen.
thanks for your help, i really appreciate it
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wow!
love the picture!
I've got myself in a right muddle with this lot, i must be making a mistake somewhere.
I think what it is is that its THOMAS gibson who was in aberdeen  sorry, i am not very bright at the best of times.
In 1891 Thomas is 11 and living at home, he can't be the same thomas as the one born in 1863 in kirkudbright.
sorry, if i've just comfused things more 
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No problems. Your first post was looking for a Robert Gibson and that's the name I seem to have fixed on.
So what I'm looking for is a:
1. Thomas Gibson. (The address for the 1901 census is
'Oakbank Industrial School for Boys, Mid Stocket Row, Aberdeen.
Thomas Gibson 21 Teacher, b.crawford) He was 11 in the 1891 census
Parents Thomas Gibson a farmer and mother Mary Gibson (M.S Anderson) living at North Shortcleugh, in Elvanfoot (which is less than three miles from Crawford).
That seems to tie in with the cery I obtained. However Thomas age doesn't fit. The first Thomas
(THOMAS GIBSON - Birth: 02 SEP 1863 Colvend, Kirkcudbright, Scotland ) may have died and an older sibling born (not on IGI) may have then been named Thomas.
The Thomas of Oakbank School fame appears to have married a Janet? . She was alive in 1947. That's what I'll be looking for unless advised diferently. Regards, Steve :O)
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thanks steve!
i think you are probably bonkers going to so much troubgle for thomas gibson! he is probably having a good laugh at us somewhere.
got the email, it is definetly the right family and all the info you have is correct.
caroline
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