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Need help finding a death certificate
« on: Saturday 08 December 07 00:09 GMT (UK) »

Hi I need to find the death certificate for John Thomas Headland. Could be under Thomas Headland. was born 1844. Bedfordshire
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 08 December 07 00:18 GMT (UK) »

do you have him on any census returns?
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #2 on: Saturday 08 December 07 00:29 GMT (UK) »

yes all of them. There was thought he may have been registered in Greenwich?
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 08 December 07 00:45 GMT (UK) »

if the 1901 census has him in Wellingborough, Northamptonshire there is a possible registered in Trapston Northamptonshire Jun Q 1911 vol 3b pg 95 - unless you've eliminated this one already
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 08 December 07 08:28 GMT (UK) »

No, i couldn't find any. Is he under John Thomas or Thomas?
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 08 December 07 08:39 GMT (UK) »

It's better to provide too much information than the opposite.

If you have him in all censuses where was he living in the most recent?

FreeBMD only goes up to around 1910+/-. More recent than that it's a case of ploughing through the GRO indexes quarter by quarter. Do you have an Ancestry subscription?

I have reservations about the death that gar found - it's John J rather than John T, the age is a couple of years adrift, which may not mean a lot, but it's in the wrong registration district IF the Headlands stayed in Wellingborough.

Later - ploughing through Ancestry images there's a John T Headland aged 75 in the Sept quarter 1919 at Greenwich 1d 742.

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            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 08 December 07 09:43 GMT (UK) »

I have a feeling that's the one. I did have that info re Greenwich, but couldn't remeber how. He was a traveller (in the boots and shoes trade way!! not the Gypsy way!!) so he may have died while away working. I'm going to go for that one.
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 08 December 07 09:47 GMT (UK) »

His job title was journeyman? Any idea what that means?

I do have ancestry, but i'm not that good at finding hidden things. Especially as i have a 10 month old and 2 year old. Can be a bit distracting!!! Thanks for your help
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 08 December 07 10:34 GMT (UK) »

A journeyman meant that he had served an apprenticeship and was paid by the day "jour", not that he was a traveller.  Still doesn't explain what he was doing in Greenwich. In 1901 there was another John T Headland born 1844 living in Bermondsey which is much closer to Greenwich, a boot clicker so in the same trade so a death cert might not prove a lot. I did 1919 -21 in the GRO indexes. I would carry on looking if I were you as I'm not convinced this is the right John T.

The GRO BMD images are on www.ancestry.co.uk and are easy to use. Wait till the kids are a bit older and you're having to fight them to use the internet. THAT'S when it gets difficult! Which reminds me I've got to pick up my 8 year old from school in 10 minutes, so I'd better finish this post quickly and dash off, as he's bound to want it when he gets back
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 23:08 GMT (UK) »

Hi There,
I'm stuck on finding my grandfathers death certificate now. He was born 3 march 1879 in O'Dell Bedfordshire and died feb1969 in Wellingborough. I can't seem to find his death certificate though on Ancestry. Can someone help
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 20 February 08 23:12 GMT (UK) »

Hi There,
I'm stuck on finding my grandfathers death certificate now. He was born 3 march 1879 in O'Dell Bedfordshire and died feb1969 in Wellingborough. I can't seem to find his death certificate though on Ancestry. Can someone help
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Lisa


Will try - but a name would help Wink

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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 21 February 08 07:09 GMT (UK) »

Lisa,  As I've got your tree on Genes ReU, I know it's Thomas Edward

Full BMD death index shows clearly

Thomas E Headland    Wellingboro 3b 858  Jan-Mar 1969  at age 89

regards John
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 21 February 08 07:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi John, Thanks for that. I checked the freeBMD but nothing came up. I also checked IGI and Ancestry. I must be doing something wrong. Was it the free MD were you found it?
I know that i miss out on so much because i don't know how to fully use things! need some lessons.
thanks again
Lisa
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday 21 February 08 08:02 GMT (UK) »

Lisa,   No it was from the full index. Ancestry has the Full BMD index as well as the Partial FreeBMD index (which is the same info that you get from www.FreeBMD.org.uk )

now if you want lessons .... I am available....

cheers John
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Re: Need help finding a death certificate
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 21 February 08 09:03 GMT (UK) »

I Think i may take you on as i don't think i am using things to their full capaicity. Maybe we can arrange a day to meet
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