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Topic: Thomas McDonald and Elizabeth Gordon - with Lemmon. (Read 321 times)
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Piglet01
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Apologies in advance for rather a long post.
Thomas McDonald (b.1799 - married to Elizabeth Gordon, on 20 May 1847 in parish of Forgue. (This is definitely ‘our’ Thomas McDonald. He died 06 Jan 1887 in Bridge of Dyce, Forgue, District of Ythan Wells, County of Aberdeen.
** Witness to his death was John Lemmon (stepson)
Child definitely born to ‘my’ Thomas McDonald and Elizabeth Gordon:
1. Thomas Gordon McDonald ch 04 July 1849 in Forgue. - definitely son of the above pair.
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However, an IGI search and I have a OPR copy, also shows the birth of a William McDonald ch 24 Jan 1824 in Gartly to a Thomas McDonald and an Elizabeth Gordon - a ‘natural’ son. Is this the same Elizabeth Gordon and Thomas above?
On 21 Aug 1825 a James Lemon (lawful son) was born to a James Lemon and Elizabeth Gordon, ch. 04 Sept. Witnesses William Lemon and Henry Cruickshank. (in Forgue)
On 16 Sep 1827, a John Lemon (lawful son) was born 16th Sept, (ch. 23 Sep 1827 in Forgue 'before the congregation' - parents James Lemon and Elizabeth Gordon. (cannot find JL and EG marriage). Is this John Lemon the stepson?
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Check of the records show no marriage for Elizabeth Gordon to a James Lemmon
So I think probably that child no. 2 was the stepson who witnessed Thomas death.
Did Thomas father any other children? Difficult to prove I’d imagine - does anyone have any thoughts
What happened to William?
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The son, Thomas Gordon McDonald, born 21 May 1849, ch. 04 July 1849, married Isabella Clark on 29 Nov, 1873. ( a relative believes that Isabella was ch. on 25 Sep 1852 at Tullynessle & Forbes & Kearn. Parents William Clark and Isabel Simpson. She is recorded on the IGI as ‘Isabel’)
I have a census record of 1881 . Dwelling: House of Thomastown, census Place: Auchterless.
Source: FHL Film 02034 GRO Ref Volume 173 EnumDist 1 Page 1
Thomas McDonald, head, married, 31, Farm Serv (cattleman). Born. Forgue, Aberdeen
Isabella McDonald, wife, married, 27, Farm serv wife. Born. Tullynessle, Aberdeen
Elizabeth Gordon McDonald, dau, 6 scholar. Born. Forgue
Mary Jane McDonald, dau, 4 scholar. Born. Forgue
Isabella Simpson McDonald, dau, 2. Born. Fyvie
Maggie Ann McDonald, dau, 2 months. Born. Fyvie
George Ross, brother in law, unmarried, scholar, 17. Born Premnay, Aberdeen.
After this census I can’t find them. Any help gratefully received. Regards, Steve :O)
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Roxburgh: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson
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kenjo
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Hi,
In the
1851 Census
Stonehill. Forgue.
Thomas McDonald, Head, 51yrs, farmer of 8acres, born Inveravon, Banff.
Eliza McDonald, wife, 47yrs, Gartly.
Thomas G McDonald, son, 1yr, Forgue.
In the 1841c
there is a James Lemon, 15yrs, living with his grandparents, William Lemon, 75yrs and Helen Lemon 70yrs, at Frendraught, Forgue..
will look further..
Jo
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1861c
Bridge Of Dyce
Forgue
Thomas McDonald Head, 62, Farmer of 12 acres, Forgue..( I wonder if this is right or Banff)
Elizabeth McDonald 58
Thomas Gordon McDonald 12
David Johnston 67 Visitor, sawyer, Paty Invernesshire.
1871c
Stonehill
Ythan Wells
Thomas McDonald 72 Head, Crofter of 16acres, Inowaoon, Banffshire ( so this should be Inveravon)
Elizabeth McDonald 67
Thomas G McDonald 21
Elsper Horne 16 servent
1881c
Bridge Of Dyce Croft
Thomas McDonald 52 (this should be 82) retired farmer..born Inveravon, Banff.
Elizabeth McDonald 77
I was just wondering...do you know who the 'george Ross' in the 1881c was related to..? as he was a brother-in-law..
Jo
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Piglet01
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Hello Jo
Thanks very much for your efforts.
1. "there is a James Lemon, 15yrs, living with his grandparents, William Lemon, 75yrs and Helen Lemon 70yrs, at Frendraught, Forgue" - seems to tie in with the OPR image which I have. It's quite faded - have used a Bergers Loupe (magnifier) and Hillhead of Frendraught is where his parents lived at the time of birth and William was a witness to the birth.
2. The censuses you have are excellent - I'll get the extracts next year whenI can afford it - has given me a lot of good info.
3. The 1881 census - I got at Aberdeen Registrars just over a week ago - have not had time/money to follow up on it. Early next year for that. George Ross - the 'brother in law' is a mystery to me at the moment.
4. I don't know if you noticed, Elizabeth Gordon who had a child with a Thomas McDonald in Gartly in 1824, who married 'our' Thomas McDonald in 1847 - was born - in Gartly.
Food for thought.
Still looking for Thomas Gordon Mc and Isabella after 1881 though. They had strong family connections to Aberlour.
All your help is much appeciated. Regards, Steve :O)
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I have tried all sorts of things to find this family after 1881c
can you tell me if you have the deaths of Thomas Gordon McDonald and his wife...
and what do you know about the children so I can try further..
JO
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Piglet01
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Thanks very much for your efforts Jo - really appreciated.
I only found the census info about this family on 04/12. That was the first I knew about the children. Will obviously get hold of the extracts. Have no death info for either parent. Must admit, I haven't looked for it yet as I was to busy with looking for census info.
As an aside I have a post also on the Lanark board for cousins who disappeared around the same time. And yet 3 more male cousins in the early 1890's ended up in Massachussetts - from an Aberlour Mc family. Perhaps I need to focus on this family group emigrating?
Shall look for the death entry for TG McDonald in Scotland and if none - it'll have to be the emigration search. Thanks again. Regards, Steve :O)
Update: 16/12. Had a look at the Ellis Island site - can't find them passing through there. :O(
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