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Walcha72
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Hi,
While doing some random searching on ancestry and family search, I have found the following:
John MURRAY born 22 Jun 1814, Eskdalemuir, Dumfries, Scotland died 13 Sep 1886, Mt Crawford, South Australia.
Married Alison HOPE (sister to my 3xg grandmother) on 24 Aug 1840, Hawick, Roxburghshire, Scotland.
Alison HOPE born 3 Nov 1821, Roxburghshire, Scotland and died 9 Jun 1895 in Mt Crawford, South Australia.
Alison's parents are Thomas HOPE and Helen (or Ellen) PATERSON. I have no idea of John's parentage.
I have a list of their children as:
John born 1841 (at sea), died 1908 Eden Valley, South Australia
? (male) born and died 1844, South Australia
Helen born 1846, South Australia
Ester born 1848, South Australia
Alison Hope born 1852, died 1894 South Australia
Thomas Hope born 1854, died 1906 South Australia
Alexander James born 1859, died 1929 South Australia
William Albert born 1862, died 1901 South Australia.
Apart from John and Alison's marriage date which is from an extracted record on familysearch, everything else is either from a submitted ancestral file or the world family tree on ancestry.
Can anyone help to substantiate some of this or fill in some gaps?
Thanks in advance.
Debbie
PS This is my first foray into South Australia and despite looking at the list of resources at the top of the board, didn't seem to be able to get anywhere - maybe I just missed something obvious.
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DICKSON, COWAN, ARMSTRONG, MARTIN - Roxburghshire
MITCHELL, MCCORMICK, CAMERON, CLEGG - Argyllshire
HOY - Essex, Australia
GRUNDY - Berkshire, Australia
ROPER - Hampshire, Australia
GILLIES - Aberdeenshire, Australia
BANKHEAD - Ireland?, Australia
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deeiluka
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Hi Debbie.
From the SA Births Index....
Esther MURRAY born 4 Sep 1848 at Murray Vale
Ref: Cra 8/131
Alison Hope MURRAY born 30 April 1852 at Murray Vale
Ref: Cra 8/131
Thomas Hope MURRAY born 15 Oct 1854 at Murray Vale
ref: Cra 8/132
Alexander James MURRAY born 24 Sep 1859 at Murray Vale Mount Crawford
Ref: Cra 18/404
William Albert MURRAY born 31 July 1862 at Murray Vale
ref: Cra S 25/211
I'll do some more checking for you.....
.....dee
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scrappyshaz
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Hi Debbie,
I have the book of Register Personal Notices vol 1 1836-1859
This is the personal notices from the Local Paper.
Found 1 entry for you-
28 September 1859
On the 24th September, at Murray Vale, Mrs John Murray, of a son.
Sometimes you can stike it lucky & find a job or title listed, no such luck this time.
Sorry I don't have any other SA ref's
Regards
Shaz 
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HOLTON - Buckingham, Middlesex, New Zealand, Australia
JARVIS - Buckingham, Hertford, Australia
CROSS - Walmer Kent, New Zealand
PURSER - Idlicote, Warwickshire
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Walcha72
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Hi Dee and Shaz,
Thanks for the info you've found so far. That's great. I really appreciate it.
I'm about to head off home, so will check back tomorrow.
Have a great night.
Debbie
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DICKSON, COWAN, ARMSTRONG, MARTIN - Roxburghshire
MITCHELL, MCCORMICK, CAMERON, CLEGG - Argyllshire
HOY - Essex, Australia
GRUNDY - Berkshire, Australia
ROPER - Hampshire, Australia
GILLIES - Aberdeenshire, Australia
BANKHEAD - Ireland?, Australia
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deeiluka
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From the Biographical Index of South Australians…..
MURRAY John
Parents = John and Ester nee Cowan
born: 22nd June.1814 Eskdale Moor Des ScT and died 13th Sep.1886 at Mt
Crawford SA
Arrived in 1841 on the CITY OF ADELAIDE
Occupation: Grazier, Pastoralist
Lived at Murray Vale, Mt Crawford, Nairne, Adelaide
Religion: Presbyterian
Married in Scotland to ScT to Alison HOPE born 30th Nov.1821 Box SCT and died 9.6.1895 Adelaide SA
Children:
John (1841-1908)
Child (1844-1844)
Helen DAWSON (1846-)
Ester CROZIER (1848-)
Alison Hope (1852-1894)
Thos Hope (1854-1905)
Alexr Jas (1859-1929)
Wm Albt (1862-1901)
More to come....
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deeiluka
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Here's a couple of deaths.....
Alison MURRAY aged 75 widow of Mt Crawford died 9 June 1895 at North Adelaide
Relative listed as John MURRAY (Deceased Husband)
Ref: Ade 227/237
Alison Hope MURRAY aged 42 of North Adelaide died 4 Jul 1894 at North Adelaide
Relative given as Alison MURRAY (Mother)
Ref: Ade S 220/157
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A couple more deaths.....
John MURRAY, aged 72 and married and living at Murray Vale Mount Crawford, died 13th Sep 1886 at Murray Vale Mount Crawford
No relative listed.
Ref: Cra 157/372
Thomas Hope MURRAY, aged 52y married of Mount Bevor died 29 Nov 1905 at Nairne
No relative listed
Ref: Nai 313/479
I cannot see a conclusive death for William Albert in 1901 though. There is a William Arthur who died in that year and his age matches, but no relative is given.
.....dee
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Another death....
Alexander James MURRAY aged 69 married of Medindie died 18 April 1929 at Medindie
No relative given
Ref: Ade 511/241
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Hi All,
A search of the Mt Crawford cemetery site reveals some Murrays, but information is scant..... PGN = Plot, Grave, Niche
All Surname Murray-
Kenneth Hope Mt Crawford SECT. A, PGN 7
Thomas Hope Mt Crawford, SECT A, PGN 7
W. A. ][??] Mt Crawford SECT A, PGN 5
A. SECT A, PGN 233
Alexander Ronald SECT A, PGN 1, 78 years in 2000
C. M. Scott SECT A, PGN 233
Florence Edith SECT A, PGN 7
J. SECT A, PGN 100
J. SECT A, PGN 5
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Evans: Bermondsey.
Mason: Stepney, Sydney {Aust}
Disney:West Ham.
Cornish: Hull {UK} to Tasmania {Aust.} to Victoria {Aust}
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deeiluka
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There's heaps more information about descendants of John and Alison if you would like it.....just let me know. I don't want to add more than you want. 
I cannot find births for the other children though....maybe they just weren't registered. And I can't find deaths either.....
.....dee
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Walcha72
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Good morning all,
Thanks so much for all the information you've found so far. I really appreciate it.
Dee, if you can find info on John and Alison's descendants, that would be great. It all helps.
Thanks once again for all your help.
Debbie
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DICKSON, COWAN, ARMSTRONG, MARTIN - Roxburghshire
MITCHELL, MCCORMICK, CAMERON, CLEGG - Argyllshire
HOY - Essex, Australia
GRUNDY - Berkshire, Australia
ROPER - Hampshire, Australia
GILLIES - Aberdeenshire, Australia
BANKHEAD - Ireland?, Australia
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deeiluka
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Debbie....I'll PM you in a little while.....
......dee
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Walcha72
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Hi everyone,
Dee has very kindly PM'd me lots of info on John and Alison's children and grandchildren, which has been very much appreciated.
While surfing during my lunch time, I've managed to find a link to Mt Crawford Presbyterian Cemetery, complete with photos of all but one of the headstones of this family!! How exciting!!
I thought you might all like to see the following 2 plaques that have been placed in the cemetery. I am particularly excited to learn about John's involvement with the establishment of the merino flock in South Australia. I grew up on a fine wool merino property and am currently involved in the auctioning of livestock, so this information is of particular interest to me.
Thanks once again for all your help.
Debbie
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DICKSON, COWAN, ARMSTRONG, MARTIN - Roxburghshire
MITCHELL, MCCORMICK, CAMERON, CLEGG - Argyllshire
HOY - Essex, Australia
GRUNDY - Berkshire, Australia
ROPER - Hampshire, Australia
GILLIES - Aberdeenshire, Australia
BANKHEAD - Ireland?, Australia
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Very interesting, Debbie, to see that Alexander Borthwick Murray was brother to John! I kept seeing him in various records and noticing naming similarities among children!
Re the Murray family and Rhine Park .....if you visit the State Library of South Australia website, http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/site/page.cfm
& search the catalogues and select the South Australiana Database,
you can find a picture of the homestead from approximatley 1870.
.....dee
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You can also find photographs of John and Alexander Borthwick Murray, and John Murray Junior and Thomas Hope Murray.
There's lots of reference material listed as well, including obituaries. The State Library has an electronic enquiry form that might be useful to you.
.....dee
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