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Topic: Edith Royle Chadwick : 1891 and 1901 (Read 846 times)
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suzard
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No Edith yet -but a little bonus
Martha and Elizabeth are with Grandparents
1871
Warrener St
Sale
John Warriner Head M 61 Stone Mason Whittle lancs
Elizabeth wife 57 Salford lancs
Elizabeth daughter U 23 manchester
MARTHA HAMPSON Granddaughter U 17 Milliner's apprentice Sale Cheshire
ELIZABETH HAMPSON granddaughter Sale Cheshire
Hannah Bowers Srevant U 23 General Servant Knutsford Cheshire
RG10 3685 7 6
Where is Edith???
Suz
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mosiefish
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John Knowles 1896 to 1917
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Hi,
You`re working well too Suz. 
By the way, extra info regarding Benjamins marriage to Susannah:
11th October, 1868 St. James Burnley
His father was Robert Chadwick and her father was Richard Lister
Regards,
Mo
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suzard
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I have another possibilty!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Can't find edith in 1871 but.......................
there are several deaths of james hampson between 1861-1871
then.....
there is this marriage
Sept qtr 1867
Manchester
on same page
Alice hampson
James Heiffer
8d 333
then......
1871
68 Thomas St
manchester
James Heiffer Head M 27 Joiner manchester
Alice Heiffer wife 35 Coffee House Keeper Manchester
Theresa H Heiffer daughter 14 Sale Cheshire
Edith H Heiffer daughter 11 Sale Cheshire
Lucy A H Heiffer daughter 8 Sale Cheshire
Edmund L N Heiffer son 3mth Manchester
William hawksworth Boarder U 34 Porter Derbyshire
RG10 4046 66 3
This is possibly your Edith
also I can only find a birth of Lucy Amy Hampson -not one of Heiffer
don't know where Theresa fits in yet
and there is Edith's sister Florence to find!!
Do you think this is a possibility?
Wonder where Royle comes from???
Suz
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suzard
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I think possibly Theresa of 1871 is Florence of 1861!!!
and it seems like the Hampson girls of 1871 have been given the initial "H" before the Heiffer name -possibly they went as Hampson -Heiffer (only to be said when sober!!!)
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Suz
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suzard
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According to the marriage reg to Susannah -benjamin was benjamin Towler Chadwick
there is this birth which may be his son
Benjamin Towler Chadwick
Jun qtr 1882 Burnley
8e 204
and a death Sept qtr 1882
Burnley
could explain the "gap" in children for Benjamin and Susannah
Suz
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suzard
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I have found benjamin on 1861 with parents (father Robert)
will post it after I've cooked tea -unless anyone else posts it before
Suz
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mosiefish
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Hi,
Unfortunately I don`t think his parents married until 1850  This would explain the Towler part.
Robert Chadwick aged 23 married Alice Towler aged 21 at Holy Trinity, Habergham Eaves (Burnley) on 11th July, 1850
His father was Robert Chadwick and her father was Thomas Towler.
I can find Robert and Alice on the 1851 census but I`m blowed if I can find where the heck Benjamin is. He isn`t with Thomas Towler. Just Edited this bit I think I have found them under Tuder - don`t ask! Will post in a minute.
Regards,
Mo
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suzard
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he might be with Thomas
mo, could you have a look at
1851
HO107 2252 85 27
Transcribed "Thomas Tudor" age 62 - he has 1 yr old grandson Benjamin with him -I think the name should be Towler -image very faint and I am in a rush-so can't study it until later
Suz
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mosiefish
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Hi,
Exactly what I thought Suz. Image is very bad and my disc won`t work (overused in this area) so I can`t see if the image is any better.
93 Finsley Bk, Habergham Eaves
HO107/2252 Folio 85 Page 27
Thomas Towler/Tuder?, Head M, 62, Hawker, Burnley
Hannah, Wife, M, 53, Burnley
John, Son, W, 30, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, Burnley
Robert, Son, U, 18, Power Loom Weaver Cotton, Burnley
Alice, Grand ?, 10, Nurse, Habergham
BENJAMIN, Grand ?. 1, Habergham
The same family in the 1841 have been transcribed as Fowles!!! If you want the details let me know. Finally in 1861 they were transcribed as Towler but Thomas had died.
By the way 'Royle' is probably a Burnley thing I think. There is a Royle Road, and there was a Royle Hall if I remember.
Regards,
Mo
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suzard
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Hi,
Just enlarged the image for 1851 -and agree word for word with Mo's transcription
The name is definately Towler (but can understand why it was transcribed as Tuder
Suz
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eg1
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Maybe I can give some information about Edith Royle Chadwick. She was my Grandmother, so I know a lot about her and her family. Indeed her father married twice, first to Suzanna Lister with whom he had 2 children and later to Edith Hampson (my great grandmother). They had 10 children! I know some of the stories about my great uncles and met some of my great aunts (Edith Royle's sisters). The descendants of the first marriage are living in Brazil. I've mailed with one of them. Afterall it's a small world. The information I have of their birth and marriage dates is reasonably accurate.
I hope to obtain some information about my great grandfather Benjamin (Towler). The only thing I know is that he was born in 1849/1850 in hotel The Bull's Head in Burnley (Lancashire), there was enough money for a good education and that he was deputy secretary of Burnley in his thirties. He died in Moss side near Manchester in 1907.
I'm very interested in information about his mother or father.
Like to hear from any of you!
EG1
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eg1
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Is there anyone who could confirm the marriage between Benjamin Chadwick (b.1849/1850 Burnley) and Edith Hampson?? According to the post of Mo this marriage was in 1890, Holy Tr. South Shore Blackpool. But I know they had their first child in 1884 and their second in 1885, so I think the marriage should have taken place well before 1890??
EG
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marody
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Hi eg1,
I'm very interested to hear you are a descendant of Edith Royle Chadwick. If you send me a PM we can exchange further info.
Vaison
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