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17th Century Yorkshire
« on: Friday 14 December 07 12:16 GMT (UK) »

I'm out on a long thin limb with this and seek help from anyone!

I have traced my family as far back as the 1700's in Emley, Yorkshire but have come to a halt with DOUGALD LEA (or Douglas; or Leah) who was born around 1691 at a village called Bretton.

(Dougald married Grace Hare in Emley in 1716 and it all ended up here with me!)

Can anyone please tell me about this village and if it had a church? If so where would any records be kept now??

many thanks
Tony

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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 December 07 13:55 GMT (UK) »

Hello Tony
Bretton / West Bretton is only a couple of mile away from Emley (as the crow flies) it is also the home of The Yorkshire Sculpture Park. I can't say as i've noticed a church but you could try phoning the link below.
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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 December 07 15:44 GMT (UK) »

many thanks, Carolanne
I'll give that at try
Tony
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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 15 December 07 00:26 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Although I live in Huddersfield I cant say that I know Emley at all cos I dont...Although I have been there or travelled through it many times I dont ever recall seeing a church there.

However I do recall that back in 1969(I think) there was a huge TV mast there that collapsed due to having heavy ice all over it and if my memory serves me correctly as it toppled over it landed on a church!!!!but ive no idea of the name of it.

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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 15 December 07 00:45 GMT (UK) »

The church at Emley is still standing and is a beautiful church inside and out.


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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 15 December 07 00:53 GMT (UK) »

Dont know how Ive never seen St Micheals as its a lovely church from your piccy..

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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 15 December 07 01:25 GMT (UK) »

Its just off the main street through Emley on Church St actually lol lol
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« Reply #7 on: Saturday 15 December 07 01:29 GMT (UK) »

The cider up there must be too good LOL  Shocked

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« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 December 07 01:35 GMT (UK) »

Haha...I new there was something to do with a church and the TV mast.

It looks like its just one of those small church houses used for Sunday school etc and the mast didnt hit it but the cables sliced through it

Some good piccys here

http://tx.mb21.co.uk/emley/eyewitness/index.shtml

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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 15 December 07 07:55 GMT (UK) »

Hope this isn't a red herring, but it seems from Genuki that Bretton/West Bretton was in the parishes of Silkstone and Sandal Magna rather than Emley -

"WEST BRETTON, in the parishes of Sandal Magna and Silkstone, Agbrigg-division of Agbrigg and Morley, liberties of Pontefract and Wakefield, 6 miles SW. of Wakefield, 6˝ from Barnsley. Pop. in Agbrigg, 154, in Staincross, 364, total, 518."

"BRETTON PARK, (the seat of Thomas Richard Beaumont, Esq.) in the township of Bretton, and parish of Silkstone, 6˝ miles from Wakefield and Barnsley."

Records for Silkstone, Sandal Magna and Emley are at WYAS, Wakefield according to genuki.

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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 15 December 07 09:44 GMT (UK) »

I should have made it much clearer that it is BRETTON I'm after finding out about----sorry folks.

Emley is, of course, well documented and I have pics of its lovely church.

Thank you Redshank for the parish info. I will follow that lead up.

Have a nice weekend all....
Tony
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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #11 on: Friday 01 August 08 23:11 BST (UK) »

Bretton must I think be the nearby village of West Bretton.  This was partly in the ancient parish of Sandal Magna and partly in the ancient parish of Silkstone. There is a modern church, but also a chapel in the grounds of Bretton Hall.

I found your original post when I was trying to find out more about the British School in Emley, now Emley First School.  The land was given by Thomas Wentworth Beaumont of Bretton Hall, so there is a connection there between the two villages.  The school bears a plaque recording the founder's name.  This is partly eroded and in fancy lettering but now I realise that it is 'H LEAH ESQ'.  The date was 1846.  I have attached the relevant photographs.


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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 02 August 08 08:28 BST (UK) »

Hi Tony - I checked PR for Silkstone 1558 to 1784 and came up with the following;
1701 Baptism, Aug 2 George the son of George Leah of Britton
1716 July 8 Gervase Tricket & Sarah Lea both otp by banns
1722 July 29 Gerv: Scholfield of Wakefield & Martha Lea otp. p. Banns

There are no more BMDs in any spelling of the name.  There are about 10 baptisms for Bretton/Britton in total.  There are no Lea/Leah on Bretton Chapel records 1751 to 1784.

Also check Bretton on the National Archives for details of considerable records held at Wakefield RO.  It looks as though all the PRs are there and looks like a great source for Bretton info.  Jackie
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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 02 August 08 09:52 BST (UK) »

Thanks for the fresh responses to my old post.

Humf, the photos are great.....thanks for sending. Henry Leah was my 1st cousin five times removed and a bit of a philanthropist about whom I know a fair bit. I have not been to Emley so the pics are most welcome.

And Jackie........thats information I didn't have before and has certainly given a renewed 'push' to my searches. Many thanks.

Tony
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Re: 17th Century Yorkshire
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 02 August 08 14:14 BST (UK) »

Jackie

as an afterthought.....where is or was the Chapel you mention with records for 1751 to 84. Was this attached to the big house?? Which denomination was it??

thanks
Tony
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