Vonnie M
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I am wondering if anyone has access to the Marriage records in Prittlewell Essex around 1825 ? Or if not I need some direction on where to look for this
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I am specifically looking for a marriage between John MOTT b. 1801 Prittlewell and Lydia (surname unknown) b. 1803 (sometimes birthplace written as Prittlewell and sometimes Southminster)
Their first child John was born in 1826 in Prittlewell.
Any help would be greatly appreciated thankyou.
Vonnie 
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dawlc
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The Essex Records Office in Chelmsford, Essex has extensive microfiche BMD records for most of the parishes in Essex. It would be easy to search the marriage fiches for the parish church in Prittlewell (hopefully there was only one!). Those prior to 1837 are not very detailed but would record Lydia's maiden name, place of residence at marriage and who witnessed the union - providing they are readable! Not all Rectors had legible handwriting!
If you find their wedding at a particular church you should be able to look in the Baptismal records and follow the baptisms of any subsequent children. Are you able to get to the ERO? If not I live very local and often go myself so when I next visit I could make a note to look for John Mott for you.
As you mention Southminister as a birthplace you would have to look to that parish church too if nothing turned up in Prittlewell.
Regards - dawlc
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Vonnie M
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Hi there Dawlc,
I am in Victoria, Australia..... it would be fantastic if you could look for me.
No rush. I think the Southminster entry is wrong it does says birthplace
Prittlewell on teh 1851 Census.
I have found the subsequent children on the 1841 census records.
and then the latter ones with birthplaces on the 1851 census -
John 1826
Mary 1829
Sarah 1831
William 1833
James 1834 b. Prittlewell
George 1836 Prittlewell
Lydia 1838 Prittlewell
Henry 1841 Leigh
thankyou also for your return answer. Sometimes your never get a message
back.... so this is a bonus !
thankyou
Vonnie 
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Hi Vonnie
Not too local then! I will make a note of all you have told me and take it with me when I next visit the ERO. Ideally I would like to go sometime in January but need a few weeks to catch up from the backlog that Christmas always creates!
So if you don't hear from me for awhile please do not presume that I have forgotten. Happy to try and help you as I know it must be frustrating when the records are out there but not accessible.
Happy New Year.
Deborah
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Vonnie M
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Thankyou Deborah.
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Hi Vonnie
I've just bought the Prittlewell baptism records ranging from 1838 to 1893 so just manage to capture the baptism of Lydia Mott for you.
The entry reads; Lydia Mott baptised 14 March 1841, born 25 March 1838. The parents are John and Lydia Mott, Labourer, Prittlewell.
Hope this helps. I'm coming over to Oz next week to visit friends and enjoy some sunshine in Perth. We are staying with people wih the surname "Mott"!!!!
My Mott family lived in and around Rettendon and Woodham Ferrers which isn't too far from Prittlewell. Our friends Mott branch came from further North in Essex but are distantly connected.
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Vonnie M
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Hi there Diblet,
thankyou for looking that up from your records for me.
I am wondering... seeing you have those records !
John Mott (lydia's brother) married Eliza Jane Mott (no relation)
and they had 2 children before emigrating to Australia arriving July 1852.
Their first child Sarah was I think born in Southchurch on 29 Dec 1850
but the second child John I wasn't sure where he was born - I have
a date of 7 Aug 1851 and I am unsure of whether this is the birth or
baptism date. I am not sure if he was born at Southchurch or Prittlewell
as they emigrated and there wasn't another census.
On free bdm - Births Sep 1851 Mott John Rochford Vol XII Page 203
I wonder if we are connected. Eliza Jane Mott's mother was Sarah Mott
and was born in Rettendon in 1803. She had Eliza out of wedlock to
James Little then married him and had several other children.
I was in Perth in February - it is a beautiful city. Our Motts - Eliza Jane,
John and children Sarah and John came to South Australia to a place
called Mount Gambier and then on to Millicent. I know there are other
Motts out there but I don't think we have a connection to the Perth ones.
Anyway.... besides all that - thankyou for finding Lydia for me and now I
have some correct dates. Are baptism records expensive to buy ?
cheers for now
Von
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Glad I could help.
John and Eliza Mott's first child was baptized in Southchurch on January 27th 1850, so perhaps the date you have should read 1849?
Their second child, John, was also baptized in Southchurch on 14th September 1851.
After having a look at my tree I can see that we do indeed have a connection.
Eliza Jane Mott is my 2nd cousin 3 times removed. She was born in Rawreth in 1824. Her mother Sarah was born in Wickford in 1802.
Do you know where and when Eliza Jane married John Mott? It's nice to know that I've got some more distant relies in Oz!!!
As far as buying fiche is concerned, it's very easy and quite cheap too. Go onto the Essex Record Office website and log in as a guest on SEAX. You can them trawl through all the parish info. which tells you what's available. The fiche cost approx. AUS$5 each. If you've any questions press the "contact us" button and send them an e mail. The staff are very helpful indeed and will no doubt explain how to order from Oz.
Best Wishes for now.........
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Vonnie M
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Hi Diblet,
I have John and Eliza's marriage Certificate they were married 4 Nov 1848
by Banns in the Parish of Prittlewell in the County of Essex. At the Parish Church.
Father of John - John Mott - Labourer. Father of Eliza James Mott - Labourer.
John Mott signed with a Mark and Eliza signed her name.
Presence of William Little (signed) and Eliza Wright (just a mark for Eliza Wright)
John living at Southchurch and Eliza at Southend.
Curate - Arthur R Stent (or Sterl - hard to read)
Oops about the birthdate !
Eliza is my GGGrandmother. They had 5 more children after they arrived in Australia. Other children were James, Jane, Lydia, Alexander and William.
Some of the relatives are in Brisbane - you could do a whole country tour !
They were assisted in their move to Australia :-
Assisted British Immigration - Index 1839-1871 Arr July 1852 on'Emma Eugenia' John aged 26, Elizabeth aged 28, John aged 1, Sarah aged 2. Book 8 page 127
Thanks for the info re the fische.
I don't have any more information regarding Eliza's mother Sarah other than
she was born in 1803 in Rettendon and married 13 Sep 1825 in Rawreth to
James Little. I didn't know her mother's name was Sarah too. Do you have any
information further back... ? Have you any idea when Sarah (mother of Eliza) died ?. I know after she died her daughter Eliza Jane went by the name of Sarah instead of Eliza.
Thanks for all the info.
cheers
Von 
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Hi again Von
Eliza Jane's mother Sarah who you say was born in Rettendon was actually baptised in Wickford in 1802. Her parents were Thomas and Jane Mott.
Thankyou for the marriage info. about Eliza Jane and John. I'll be able to follow up that new Mott lead when I get back from OZ in March. At that point, get in touch again and we'll have some more "Mott chat"
Take care and have a very happy 2008.
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Vonnie M
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Hi again,
I am a bit obsessed about the family history research as I have a couple of
weeks off work and am putting together a power point presentation for the
family.
Re the Rettendon birth for Sarah - I got that from the 1861 Census. I know they
can quite often be wrong. It's interesting that Eliza Jane was born at Rawreth -
that was where her parents were married. It only said born Rochford on the census details.
Just one quick question before you fly off to OZ.... The children of Eliza Jane who were baptised at Southchurch - do you know which church they would have been baptised at ?
cheers and have a great trip and year ahead in 2008
Von
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Hi Vonnie I've just bought the Prittlewell baptism records ranging from 1838 to 1893 so just manage to capture the baptism of Lydia Mott for you. The entry reads; Lydia Mott baptised 14 March 1841, born 25 March 1838. The parents are John and Lydia Mott, Labourer, Prittlewell. Hope this helps. I'm coming over to Oz next week to visit friends and enjoy some sunshine in Perth. We are staying with people wih the surname "Mott"!!!! My Mott family lived in and around Rettendon and Woodham Ferrers which isn't too far from Prittlewell. Our friends Mott branch came from further North in Essex but are distantly connected.
How did you manage to buy the Prittlewell Marriage Registers? I looked at the Essex Record Office site but couldn't find a link to buying the microfiche.
Lois.
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Hi,
I was wondering if it would be possible for Diblet (I hope I've got the right person) to have a look at those Prittlewell Marriage Register's for a marriage of a John Holden and Rose Goldacre (w)? in 1804 Prittlewell? Thanks!!
Ciao, Chris.
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Hi Lois and Chris
Back from Oz now and noticed your queries....
Firstly, I've only got Prittlewell baptisms Chris, so sorry, I can't help you with your query.
To order microfiche from the ERO, go into their SEAX website and to start with, click the words "Quick Find Registers" on the main menu page. This will then lead you into the parishes and list all available fiche. It's these details you'll need to quote when you've decided which one's you want to order.
To get an order form, either ring the ERO (details on "Contact Us" bit) or e mail them requesting an order form. They'll either send you one in the post or send one for you to download. At this point you could also ask the current prices.
Hope this helps.
Diblet
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Vonnie M
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Hi there Diblet,
glad to see you are back safely - hope you had a good time in Australia.
Let me know if you find any info on my Mott family now that you are back
with your records.
cheers
Von
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