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Hello there is this family with a Joiner
1881 West Ham Essex
Travelling Caravan Meredith Street
Frank Buckley age 39 Suffolk Carman Elvina wife age 32 Hawker born Suffolk Mercy dau age 14 Notting hill Middlesex Leonard son age 12 Petre Suffolk Albert son age 10 Plaistow essex Uriah son age 7 Thundersley Essex Bertha dau age 5 Plaistow Ambrose son age 2 Plaistow Joiner Buckley son age 2 months Plaistow
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Joiner Buckley born 1810 died 1886 age 76 dec quarter West Ham Essex/Greater London 4a 60
Suffolk Parish and Probate Parish records
Baptisms Culford Estate Suffolk
20 April 1843 Hercules son of Joiner and Sarah (Smith) Buckley of no regular abode Tinker and Grinder
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Sorry only the one baptism came up on Ancenstry
Rg11/1710 folio 70 page 63
Still looking for Frank and family on other censuses
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Hello
I am sorry I cannot see the Frank Buckley family in other censuses or Joiner senior.
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oakley, Leadbeater, Hemming, Jones, Pearsall, Page,------ Aston, Leominster, Balsall Heath, Tewkesbury, Kings Norton, Birmingham. census information are crown copyright of www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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According to the Census which you have above:
Frank Buckley age 39 Suffolk Carman Elvina wife age 32 Hawker born Suffolk Mercy dau age 14 Notting hill Middlesex Leonard son age 12 Petre Suffolk Albert son age 10 Plaistow essex Uriah son age 7 Thundersley Essex Bertha dau age 5 Plaistow Ambrose son age 2 Plaistow Joiner Buckley son age 2 months Plaistow
"Elvina" I belive was actually Elvira Williams.
Joiner Buckleys wife was Sarah Smith also known as Seni Smith. Thats about all I can remember offhand.
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I havent finished yet 
I had a nose round the Ancestry site. As well as being fab for having loads of Census records BMDs etc etc they also have family trees uploaded by members to peruse. I found one called Buckley Family Tree. So, here you go!:
Joe Buckley b.cir 1780 married Lavinia Skipper
They had
Elijah b.cir 1810 d.1833
Hirum b.cir 1810
JOINER b.cir 1810 d.1886 Plaistow Ex married Sarah "Seni" Smith d.1886
Sam b.cir 1810
Well Joiner and Sarah/Seni had:
Josiah b.cir 1837 Kent d.1873 married Alice Smith d/o James Smith and Elizabeth Odell b 1838 Soham Cam d.1921. Josiah can be found on the 1861 Census at Chrisall Ex with other travelling families who are closely related: Welches and Shaws. (More on them in a moment).
Josiah and Alice had at least two children: Arthur, and Lazarus - b.1872 d.1925 d.1925 Rochford Ex, he married Elizabeth Shaw (d/o William) b.cir 1871 Ware Herts d.1945 Southend. They can be found on the 1891 Census at West Tilbury Ex, and 1901 Census at Romford Ex.
Their children were: Corolinda (Lender) 1890 - 1963 Beatrice 1892 - 1948 Matilda 1894 Elias 1896 Leonard 1899 - 1972 Benjamin 1906 - 1968 Penda 1908 Adolphus 1909 - 1983 Eziekiel 1911 Jeremiah 1914 - 1973
Going back to Joiner and Sarah/Seni - their other children were:
Carnation 1839 -1916 (also married briefly to Alice Smith (above) yes thats actually more common than youd think)
Justina 1840 married Woodlock Smith. Now Woodlock is well known for having two brothers, Bartholomew and Cornelius. Cornelius Smith was the father of the evangelist Gypsy Rodney Smith.
Kiomi b.cir 1840
Noah b.cir 1840
Santalina b.cir 1840
Phoebe b.cir 1842
Hercules b.cir 1843 Sfk
FRANK b.cir 1842 Sfk married Elvira Williams 1849 - 22.02.1882 West Ham.
Frank and Elvira had:
Mercy b.cir 1867 Leonard b.cir 1869 Albert b.cir 1871 Uriah b.cir 1874 Bertha b.cir 1876 Ambrose b.cir 1879 Joiner b.cir 1881 - 1882.
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I have a marriage certificate for one of my possible ancestors, with Joiner Buckley as the bride's father. Her name is Naomi Buckley and she married James Taylor in Stow,Suffolk, in 1861. He is a licensed hawker.
Methinks this is the Kiomi on the family history page I found at Ancestry.com.
Rom names were often mis-transcribed. Justinia Buckley/Smiths name turns up transcribed as Testaner and Jessima on the census transcriptions. Lazarus turns up as something unpronouncable on one of them as well. Its worth knowing too, that the Buckleys sometimes went under the alias of Smith. It did not matter one jot to them if they used the mans surname or the wifes, or indeed his mothers or heaven only knows what connection.
Dud aka Arkless Buckley aka Smith was the hubby of Genty/Jenty/Genti/Gentee Gray g.d/o the fabled No Name Heron/Hearn/Herring for a short time. Its hard work checking out the Rom connections. Follow your nose, and go by gut instinct. Likelihood is, you are probably right. Genty/etc various was bapt as Gentee. she often turns up on the census as plain Jane Gray - but she married Arkless (call it Hercules if you like!) Smith/Buckley and he is with her on the 1871 census only as plain Arthur. But he was a Buckley who went by the Smith name. Jenty Smith died in 1918 and is buried at Gorleston Cem in Yarmouth.
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