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wendypusey
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I am trying to find the parents of Richard Wadeson who was born 31/7/1826 Bayhorse, Lancaster (or possibly Gaythouse) and who won the Victoria Cross.
I am unable to decide which Richard Wadeson on the 1841 census he is. Any help would be appreciated.
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BarbaraH
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The area in Lancaster is called Bay Horse - was dellvering cards for Scout Xmas post around there this week. Didn't know the area that well, know it a little better now! 
It is and probably was, a very spread-out sort of area, other placenames worth searching under would include Ellel, Dolphinholme, Cockerham, Forton, Thurnham and Galgate.
Hope this helps
 Barbara
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LANCS: Holt, Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Ballard, McGibbon,Threlfall,Fishwick, Berry DERBYS: Goodwin, Grant LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell YORKS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick. Bartholomew Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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BarbaraH
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Hello again, further to that last (I will do anything to put off the last minute shopping) I've just looked up and found 3 Richard Wadesons of the right sort of age. Two in the Warton/Silverdale area, several miles north of Bay Horse, and one in central Lancaster, Brock St near Penny Street (still there!), which looks like the nearest. He would be my best bet.
More helpful than me however would probably be the Lancaster City Museum, which includes a regimental section for the Knigs Own Regiment. http://www.kingsownmuseum.plus.com/enquiries.htm
Even if Richard was not attached to the local regiment, they would probably know where to find info on a local hero.
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LANCS: Holt, Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Ballard, McGibbon,Threlfall,Fishwick, Berry DERBYS: Goodwin, Grant LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell YORKS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick. Bartholomew Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Hi wendy !
If anybody has a copy of Dictionary of National Biography or if you can get it from the library - you may be able to get information there ........ there's also his marriage and some snippets ..... that may give you some ideas !!
Name - Richard WADESON
Event type - Biography
Start year - 1826
End year - 1885
Biographical notes - Col. VC Indian Mutiny commissioned from ranks; Dictionary of National Biography
Transcribed by - British Library
India Office Records Reference:
Source name - Dictionary of National Biography
http://indiafamily.bl.uk/UI/FullDisplay.aspx?RecordId=014-000309334
A copy of the marriage certificate should tell you the name of the father !
Marriages
Richard Wadeson - Margaret Pringle
Marriage - 16 September 1851
India Office Ecclesiastical Returns-Bengal Presidency Misc India
Snippets ......... !
The Army and Navy Gazette says:- Lieutenant Colonel R. WADESON, V.C., who had succeeded to the Lieutenant-Colonelcy of the 75th Regiment, makes the third officer commanding a regiment who has obtained his commission from the ranks. J. M'KAY, of the 2nd Battalion, 12th Regiment, and Lieutenant-Colonel W. M'BREAM. V/C., 92nd Highlanders. Colonel Wadeson obtained his ensigncy in the 75th from sergeant-major, June 2, 1857; became lieutenant, September 19, 1857; captain, December 9, 1864; and major, July 17, 1871. He served with the regiment in the Indian campaign of 1857 from the outbreak on May 12, including the battles of Budinkeserai, siege operations before Delhi, and repulse of sorties on June 12 and 15, and night attacks on the camp on June 18 and 23, and July 14 and 18; storming (severely wounded) and capture of Delhi (medal with clasp and Victoria Cross). He obtained the Victoria Cross when an ensign for "conspicuous bravery at Delhi on July 18, 1857, when the 75th was engaged in the Subjee Mundee, in having saved the life of Private Farrell when attached by a sowar of the enemy's cavalry, and killing the sowar. Also, on the same day, for rescuing Private Barry, when, wounded and helpless, he was attacked by a cavalry sowar, whom Ensign Wadeson killed."
http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Cavan/1876/JAN.html
Charles and Bertha’s three sons – the last generation to live at Graiguenoe – were Marshal
b.1897, Edward 1900-1975, and Vernon b.1907. Marshal Neville, a retired barrister is
unmarried and lives in London. Edward Neville CBE retired as a Brigadier from The Rifle
Brigade in 1953. He married, in 1947 in Hong Kong, Rachael Wadeson and lived in retirment
at Hephill, Lugwardine, Hereford where he was for twenty-one years Churchwarden of
Lugwardine Church and President of the Bartestree Branch of the British Legion. Their
daughter Rosemary Ann b.1949 married in 1969 Robert Randolph of Netherways, Ledbury
and lives at Crowell near Chinnor in Oxfordshire. Edward died on 14 January 1975 on his
75th birthday and his memorial service was on Rosie’s birthday, 26 January.
Rachael’s father was Major General F W G Wadeson CB of Redcliff, Exeter, whose father
Richard Wadeson VC (from Gaythouse near Lancaster) after a distinguished military career
in India followed by service in Ireland, Gibraltar, Singapore, Hong Kong, Mauritius and the
Cape, became Lieut. Governor of Chelsea Hospital. Her mother was a Fagan of Feltrim near
Dublin, a family which has seen much service in India and traces its history back to 1493,
with two Lord Mayors of Dublin in the latter part of the 16th century
http://www.marshalclarke.com/ClarkesOfGraiguenoepark/Clarkes1.htm
Annie
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Be who you are and say what you feel - because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss
Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5
"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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liverpool annie
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Has anybody seen his gravestone .... might it say "son of" .......... ?? also - he lived at the Royal Chelsea Hospital did you get any records from there ?
A trip to Kew maybe the only way to get his service records .... though I suppose you've already done that !  and if you already have them .... what do they say ??
Tell us what you already know Wendy .... then we won't be going over "old ground" !!
RICHARD WADESON (Lieutenant, afterwards Colonel) 75th Regiment (1st Gordon Highlanders)
On July 18th during the action in the Subjee Munjee at Delhi, Lieutenant Wadeson saved the life of Private Michael Farrell by killing a sowar who had attacked him when wounded and lying on the ground. On the same day, Private John Barry, who had fallen, severely injured, owed his life to Lieutenant Wadeson, who came up and cut down a cavalry Sowar who was attacking him. After service in the Army as a non-commissioned officer, the late Colonel Wadeson rose to command the regiment. He died while Lieut. –Governor of Chelsea Hospital a few years ago.
http://www.armynavyairforce.co.uk/gordon_highlanders.htm
WADESON, Richard. (reg No. 1255).
Lieutenant. 75th Regiment. *
London Gazetted on 24th December 1858.
VC Medal's Custodian is the Gordon Highlanders Museum, Aberdeen, Scotland.
Born on 31st July 1826 at Lancaster, Lancashire.
Died on 24th January 1885 at Chelsea, London.
Memorial on grave at Brompton Cemetery, London and at the Royal Hospital, Chelsea.
Digest of Citation reads:
During the engagement in the Subjee Mundee, at Delhi, India on the 18th July 1857, when Private Michael Farrell was being attacked by a sowar of the enemy cavalry, Lieutenant Wadeson attacked and killed the Private's attacker, thus saving his life. Later on the same day, lying wounded, Private John Barry, of the 75th Regiment was also being attacked by an enemy cavalryman when Lieutenant Wadeson came to his aid and attacked and killed the sowar .
* Gordon Highlanders.
Additional information: Colonel Wadeson saw considerable action during the Indian Mutiny, including Badlu Keserai, Siege and capture of Delhi, India, receiving the medal and clasp. Promoted to Captain in 1864, Major in 1872, and Lieutenant Colonel in 1877. He commanded the 75th Regiment and became Colonel in 1880. Until his death in January 1885, at the age of 58, he was the Lieutenant Governor of the Royal Chelsea Hospital where he resided.
http://www.victoriacross.co.uk/descrip_w.html
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Cooper : Muels : Howarth : Every : Price : King
Be who you are and say what you feel - because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind ! Dr. Seuss
Erect no gravestone .... let the Rose every year bloom for his sake ! Rilke Sonnets to Orpheus, I:5
"Our fathers did not talk about psychology - they talked about a knowledge of Human Nature. But they had it, and we have not. They knew by instinct all that we have ignored by the help of information." Chesterton
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wendypusey
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Thanks for all the information, but I have all that!!!
I have found a family in 1861 with children born Bay Horse, Nr Forton, Lancaster, Lancashire, but the parents were not married until 1837, so it could be that Richard Wadeson snr born 1808 in Skerton, Lancashire (Station Master) was married before and he could be the father I'm looking for.
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Martin Briscoe
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Someone mentioned the DNB, gave you got a copy of the entry there. I can send if you wish, I don't like posting copyright material.
You can get online access to the DNB through many libraries and if you can't through your own then several libraries give membership to anyone in the UK.
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BRISCOE - Bolton, Heaton Norris, Rochdale, Oldham, Chadderton, Blackburn
POUNDER - Middleton Tyas, Kirkbymoorside, Stokesley, Lambeth, Bolton, Newcastle on Tyne, Leeds
HAMMOND - Quebec, Laverton, Masham, Grantley
SWALES - Laverton, Masham
O'Shea - Quebec
PARRY - Caerhun, Deiniolen, Clwt y Bont, Brynrefail, Tal y Sarn, Brynrefail, Bethesda
EVANS - Llanfihangel Bryn Pabuan, Maesmynis, Dowlais, Stockton on Tees, Hartlepool, Trealaw
HARVEY - Trentham, Sheriffhales, Llanfyllin, Llanferres, Minera
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The Richard Wadeson b 1808 that you found in 1861 comes up (in Ancestry-speak) as Richard Wadson in the 1841 census; he is at Bay Horse Station as Agent for Railway Co
Richard Wadson age 30 born in county
Sarah Wadson age 25 ditto
Isabella Wadson age 2 ditto
Thomas Wadson age 70 ditto Basket Maker
Ref HO107; Piece 528; Book: 18; Civil Parish: Cockerham; County: Lancashire; Enumeration District: 8; Folio: 5; Page: 3
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Thank you Barbara, I had found them on the 1841.
I think Thomas must be Richard senior's father. I also think Richard must have been married before, as he didn't marry Sarah until 1835.
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BarbaraH
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You're doing well! As it happens I am deliviering the Scout Post to Bay Horse area (again) this afternoon, I will look out for the old station building. Maybe you have found this link to Bay Horse area history? I'll put it up for the delight of other rootschatters anyway
http://www.bayhorse-lancaster.co.uk/ (click on 'history' link on the left of screen if necessary).
Mr Wadeson the station master gets a mention in the story of the train that nearly ran into the stationmasters house. When I read this I recognised it from my childminding days as a story adapted by the Rev. Awdry in the Thomas the Tank Engine stories 
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LANCS: Holt, Greenwood, Greenhalgh, Ballard, McGibbon,Threlfall,Fishwick, Berry DERBYS: Goodwin, Grant LANARK & regions: McGibbon, Bryson, Smith, Campbell YORKS: Taylor, Stamford, Fishwick. Bartholomew Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk |
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Thank you for that Barbara. Very interesting to read. I will show that to Richard Wadeson's descendents. Adds a little bit more to the tree.
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