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SweetAmber32
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I'm looking for some help on my BISHOP line. The first is Thomas Bishop. From the census' I have, he was b. 1811-1814 in Cleobury Mortimer, Shropshire. He married Elizabeth Wood June 1841 at Holy Trinity, Wordsley, Worcestershire. First it is believed that his parents were James and Mary Bishop. I have found a Christening for a Thomas Bishop for March 16, 1817 in Cleobury Mortimer. The parents of this Thomas are James and Mary. But I am unsure if this is them. I can not find any reference to a Thomas Bishop in Cleobury Mortimer other than that Christening info from the LDS site. I also cannot find any marriages for a James Bishop and a Mary. I have found James and Mary Bishop names listed in the death section of the BMD site from Cleobury Mortimer. But that is it. I know, for around this time period, there were numerous BISHOP families around. But I have not as yet found any connections to them. Any help would be appreciative.
 Have a Happy Holiday- Morgan
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Bishop-Worcestershire, Staffordshire, Shropshire, USA
Cheer- Surrey, Berkshire, Norfolk, Middlesex, Cambridgeshire and USA
Southall- Worcestershire, Staffordshire
Bailey- Cambridgeshire (Wicken/ Soham)
Weaver- Somerset, Cambridgeshire
Newton- Cambridgeshire (Soham)
Wood- Worcestershire
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SweetAmber32
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If they are in any of the census' it is unknown. It is only suspected that Thomas' parents were James and Mary, as there was a Christening for a Thomas Bishop in Cleobury Mortimer. That has been the ONLY info that has come up with a possible match as no other Thomas Bishop seems to exist in that area. I know from the BMD index that there was, at some point, a James and Mary, listed in the death index for Cleobury Mortimer. Wether that is them or not..... ? Nobody has found them in the 1841 census....as yet. As to getting the marriage cert, that unfortunantly, will have to wait. Thanks for the help though.
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Bishop-Worcestershire, Staffordshire, Shropshire, USA
Cheer- Surrey, Berkshire, Norfolk, Middlesex, Cambridgeshire and USA
Southall- Worcestershire, Staffordshire
Bailey- Cambridgeshire (Wicken/ Soham)
Weaver- Somerset, Cambridgeshire
Newton- Cambridgeshire (Soham)
Wood- Worcestershire
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SweetAmber32
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I have census' of Thomas and Elizabeth from 1871 onward. That's the UK census'. I have also their church Census; for 1857 and 1863. When Thomas and Elizabeth married they lived in Worcestershire. My gg-grandfather James, their first born, was b. in Lye, Worcestershire 1842/43. Their other children all b. in Worcestershire, were Thomas b 1845, Elizabeth b. 1847, Sarah b. 1850, Ellen b. 1853 and Philip b. 1854. Elizabeth, Thomas' wife was b Lye, Worcestershire 1815.
As to the cert. It's not a matter of not wanting to get it. it's a matter of I can't. I'm recently disabled and the parents are supporting me at this time. I need my medicines more than a marriage cert. So that's why i have to do the searching for my ancestors the hard way.
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Bishop-Worcestershire, Staffordshire, Shropshire, USA
Cheer- Surrey, Berkshire, Norfolk, Middlesex, Cambridgeshire and USA
Southall- Worcestershire, Staffordshire
Bailey- Cambridgeshire (Wicken/ Soham)
Weaver- Somerset, Cambridgeshire
Newton- Cambridgeshire (Soham)
Wood- Worcestershire
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Lloydy
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I am sorry and understand that medicines are far more important than certificates....so I'll be quiet about that marriage  BUT it may be worth you posting a look up on the Worcestershire board. There may be a Rootschatter there who has access to the records office and could get the details for you.
Now for the early census......hope this helps a bit more 
1861: RG9/2063 Folio 110 Page 6
Netherend, Cradley, Worcestershire
Thomas Bishop Head M 50 Ag Labourer Shropshire Hopton
Elizabeth Bishop Wife M 47 Worcestershire Lye
James Bishop Son Unm 17 Day Labourer Ag Worcestershire Lye
Thomas Bishop Son Unm 16 ? Worcestershire Netherend
Sarah Bishop Dau 12 Worcestershire Netherend
Ellen Bishop Dau 8 Worcestershire Netherend
Philip Bishop Son 5 Scholar Worcestershire Netherend
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Lloydy
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1851: HO107/2034 Folio 31 Page 12
Netherend, Cradley, Worcestershire
Thomas Bishop Head M 36 Lab at Farm ? Shropshire Cleobury
Elizabeth Bishop Wife M 36 Worcestershire Lye
James Bishop Son 8 Scholar Worcestershire Lye
Thomas Bishop Son 6 Worcestershire Lye
Elizabeth Bishop Dau 4 Worcestershire Lye
Sarah Bishop Dau 1 Worcestershire Lye
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SweetAmber32
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 I did not even think to post in Worcester for a marriage look-up. What an idiot, I am. Oh well.
In the 1861 census, it has down Hopton? Where is that in regards to Cleobury Mortimer?
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Bishop-Worcestershire, Staffordshire, Shropshire, USA
Cheer- Surrey, Berkshire, Norfolk, Middlesex, Cambridgeshire and USA
Southall- Worcestershire, Staffordshire
Bailey- Cambridgeshire (Wicken/ Soham)
Weaver- Somerset, Cambridgeshire
Newton- Cambridgeshire (Soham)
Wood- Worcestershire
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Lloydy
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Not an idiot, No!!! Sometimes we all need a pointer in the right direction
Hopton, I think, is referring to Hopton Wafers which lies to the West of Cleobury Mortimer, a couple of miles or so.
I'm trying to find Thomas and Elizabeth in the 1841. They married after census night in 1841 so I'm expecting to find them both in Worcestershire, and given their ages would be about 20 ish, I doubt they will be with parents.
I'll see what I can find.
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Lloydy
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Oh dear  There are too many possibilites for both Thomas and Elizabeth in the 1841. Any of them could be yours.
Maybe your Worcester look up for the marriage will clarify things - here's hoping.
It might be an idea to put a link on that look up thread to this one, it makes others aware of what we have found so far
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