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Topic: South Australian marriage index confusion COMPLETE THANK YOU (Read 252 times)
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Twinmum
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Perhaps someone can help me here. My father's birth certificate states that his parents were married on the 9th of January 1891 in Glanville, SA.
Sooo I took myself to the library to look up the indexes (this was a number of years ago now when my note taking was somewhat lacking) and I easily found an entry for his mum -
Wright Emma book 182 page 709
but try as I did, I could not find a corresponding entry for hubby, one Frederick Ongee Pearce. Now the interesting part.. dad used to say his name was Arthur Henry Beaumont Norton Pearce. This was kind of a joke, his real name was just Arthur Henry Pearce, but for some reason (which I never found out  ) people called him Beau so that was the Beaumont part. He also said his family went by the name of Norton for a while. So going on that info, I searched the indexes again but this time for Norton and found the following entry!
Norton Frederick O. book 170 page 184
As I said, my note taking was decidedly lacking back then, so I can only assume that I found the entries in the same year, but what confuses me is that the entries are in different books, so would these be two different marriages and if so where is Frederick Pearce in the indexes. Perhaps someone here has access to the indexes and could just check to see if he is there and I just missed him.
Norma
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BLACKBURN, PEARCE, BARRITT, DANIELS, FLETCHER, MOBEY, WRIGHT, BROWN, HISCOCK, BOOTHMAN, LOCKEY, SEDDON, BRINDLE, FIELD, BIRCH, DAWSON
MULLENS, HARGREAVES, BOWNESS, TAYLOR, TONGE, CROWSHAW, JACKSON, WHARTON, HOLT, CLAXTON, TOLEDANO, COX, EATTS, ANDERSON, FRANKLAND, MANNELL, SADLER, HEYS, CARR, CAVE, EGERTON, STARR, BUNTING, BEEK/BECK, MARSHALL, CLEMENT REARDON, HOWGILL. SELLARS, WOODCOCK, NUNN NUNES-MARTINES. CREASEY, BRIGHTON, BENNETT
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Hi Norma
Weloome to rootschat.
Is this the record you are looking for?
NORTON Frederick Onger 26 years Status S
WRIGHT Emma Alice 22 years Status S
9 Jan 1892
Groom's Father Richard Pearce NORTON
Bride Age: 22
Bride's father Henry WRIGHT
Place: Res of brides mother Glanville
District: PtA 170/184
There is no PEARCE/WRIGHT marriage in 1891.
The other Emma WRIGHT marriage
WAYE William Age 24 Status S
WRIGHT Emma Age 22 Status S
Date: 21 Feb 1895
Groom's father George WAYE
Bride Age: 22
Status: S
Bride's Father David WRIGHT
Place Wesleyan Parsonage Willunga
District Wil 182/709
Was your father born in South Australia?
Cheers
cando
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Twinmum
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Yes 
that's them. Thank you cando.
I think I had all the info, just never had the certificate. But that seals the Norton fact. I have birth indexes for their eldest children as Nortons, but the younger ones (including my dad) were registered as Pearce.
So if I wanted to get a copy of that certificate, would I need the index numer/s or would the place and date be enough do you know? Been a long time since I got any SA certificates, not even sure how to get them now.
Thanks muchly
Norma
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BLACKBURN, PEARCE, BARRITT, DANIELS, FLETCHER, MOBEY, WRIGHT, BROWN, HISCOCK, BOOTHMAN, LOCKEY, SEDDON, BRINDLE, FIELD, BIRCH, DAWSON
MULLENS, HARGREAVES, BOWNESS, TAYLOR, TONGE, CROWSHAW, JACKSON, WHARTON, HOLT, CLAXTON, TOLEDANO, COX, EATTS, ANDERSON, FRANKLAND, MANNELL, SADLER, HEYS, CARR, CAVE, EGERTON, STARR, BUNTING, BEEK/BECK, MARSHALL, CLEMENT REARDON, HOWGILL. SELLARS, WOODCOCK, NUNN NUNES-MARTINES. CREASEY, BRIGHTON, BENNETT
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Hi Norma
You can purchase a transcription of the certificate for $11 from http://www.saghs.org and it is offline at the moment
There is a request form on the website.
Do you need anything else from the indexes?
Cheers
cando
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Twinmum
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Thanks for the info cando. I have the marriage certificate of Emma's parents in Yankalilla in 1870 and from that I know her mother was Ann Birch she was of full age (lot of help that is lol) and her father was David. But I have no idea if her parents were married or even born in South Australia or even if she was born there!.
Henry Wright's family I have traced back to England, so nothing on that side that I really want to know at this point in time.
Thanks again for your help.
Norma
ps did you edit the post with the marriage info? I swear I didn't see that second Emma Wright before lol
pps My father was born in NSW after the family moved this way (and apparently after they reverted back to using Pearce)
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MULLENS, HARGREAVES, BOWNESS, TAYLOR, TONGE, CROWSHAW, JACKSON, WHARTON, HOLT, CLAXTON, TOLEDANO, COX, EATTS, ANDERSON, FRANKLAND, MANNELL, SADLER, HEYS, CARR, CAVE, EGERTON, STARR, BUNTING, BEEK/BECK, MARSHALL, CLEMENT REARDON, HOWGILL. SELLARS, WOODCOCK, NUNN NUNES-MARTINES. CREASEY, BRIGHTON, BENNETT
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Hi
Yes I edited it - but I did immediately after the initial post - you must have caught it between postings 
You mention they 'reverted back to using Pearce' - was the correct family name PEARCE? Just curious.
Cheers
Cando
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I'm pretty sure it was Pearce originally (but knowing my family anything is possibly)
This is what I have to trace the family back:-
Dad's birth certificate -1908 Arthur Pearce with parents Frederick Ongee Pearce and Emma Alice Wright
grandfather's birth certificate - 1856 Frederick Ongee Pearce with parents Richard Pearce and Elizabeth Field (includes their marriage date and place)
wedding certificate of Henry Richard Pearce and Elizabeth Field in Kensington, Middlesex April 1859
and I have just this week found Richard Pearce (the Henry bit was only on his marriage cert) Pearce on the 1851 and 1841 census
So yes, I'm pretty sure that Pearce is the original name. What I find interesting is that Richard and Elizabeth settled around the Newcastle area of NSW and basically stayed there. It seems only Frederick went to SA for some reason, married a local girl using a false name, had a couple of kids then brought the family to NSW and decided to drop the alias 
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MULLENS, HARGREAVES, BOWNESS, TAYLOR, TONGE, CROWSHAW, JACKSON, WHARTON, HOLT, CLAXTON, TOLEDANO, COX, EATTS, ANDERSON, FRANKLAND, MANNELL, SADLER, HEYS, CARR, CAVE, EGERTON, STARR, BUNTING, BEEK/BECK, MARSHALL, CLEMENT REARDON, HOWGILL. SELLARS, WOODCOCK, NUNN NUNES-MARTINES. CREASEY, BRIGHTON, BENNETT
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Hi Ruth
Thanks for the info. The PEARCE family name in SA is in my OH's tree - that is the reason I asked
Cheers
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The PEARCE family name in SA is in my OH's tree - that is the reason I asked
really? Any Pearces by the name of Thornley, Glanville or Jervis?
Norma
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Twinmum
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don't have many Pearce's in my tree yet, which isn't too good considering that Pearce is my maiden name  I had been against a brick wall in the London area for quite some time, but just this week I found families of both my g grandparents, so with a couple of certificate I hope to push the name back a bit further. I have often seen the name Pearce in Cornwall and have wondered if my lot originally came from there.. time will tell I guess.
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MULLENS, HARGREAVES, BOWNESS, TAYLOR, TONGE, CROWSHAW, JACKSON, WHARTON, HOLT, CLAXTON, TOLEDANO, COX, EATTS, ANDERSON, FRANKLAND, MANNELL, SADLER, HEYS, CARR, CAVE, EGERTON, STARR, BUNTING, BEEK/BECK, MARSHALL, CLEMENT REARDON, HOWGILL. SELLARS, WOODCOCK, NUNN NUNES-MARTINES. CREASEY, BRIGHTON, BENNETT
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