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Kylie B
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Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« on: Thursday 15 November 07 03:47 GMT (UK) »

Hi,
I am trying to find the baptism for a Sarah THOMPSON circa 1786 in Cambridgeshire.

Sarah married a man from Lincolnshire, and lived out her life there, but according to all censuses, her birthplace was Coates, Cambridgeshire.

Can anyone help in locating her - I would really like to know who her parents were, and if she had any siblings.

Many thanks in advance, and fingers crossed!!
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 15 November 07 06:29 GMT (UK) »

the only one i can find
ext.rec.IGI.
name sarah thompson.
date of chr. 2nd dec 1787
place. kirtling,cambridge.
parents. jonathan-elizabeth thompson.
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 15 November 07 06:43 GMT (UK) »

Coates as an independent parish wasn't formed until 1850. Prior to that it was part of Whittlesey, but I don't know which of the two Whittlesey parishes it fell within. Neither have been extracted onto the IGI so hopefully someone will have a copy of the transcripts, which are available from Cambs FHS on fiche

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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 December 07 22:40 GMT (UK) »

Kylie,
As suggested by Bedfordshire Boy, I'll have a quick look in the Whittlesey registers when I go to the CCRO tomorrow...
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 December 07 06:07 GMT (UK) »

Thank you Keith - I'm very grateful for your time
Look forward to the results - fingers crossed!
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 December 07 15:41 GMT (UK) »

Kylie,
Looked both in the Whittlesey St Andrews and the Whittlesey St Mary's registers for circa 1786 and I couldn't find any baptism for a Sarah THOMPSON, I'm afraid.  So perhaps we need to look somewhere else, such as Kirtling as mentioned earlier in the thread...
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 December 07 16:29 GMT (UK) »

Kylie

That's the hoped for parish registers ruled out unfortunately.  Possibly she was born in Coates but baptised elsewhere, or the family was  non-conformist. Kirtling is a LONG way from Coates!

Have you seen the marriage entry to see if a parish of residence is quoted for Sarah, and to see who the witnesses were?

Her census ages vary considerably, but the 61 and 71 both point to 1793/4, rather than the earlier 1786 you mentioned - how far +/- of 1786 did you check Keith?

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David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 December 07 06:27 GMT (UK) »

Hi David,
I found the marriage for John Hotter and Sarah Thompson via a lookup request on the Lincolnshire board, which confirmed a listling on the IGI:

John Hotter and Sarah Thompson married on 14 May 1816 in St Nicholas Church, Sutton (aka Lutton) in the East Elloe deanery.

This is all I have though - how would I go about finding out if a place of residence was listed, or who the witnesses were?

Thank you for your advice, assistance and patience - I don't know the Lincolnshire/Cambridgeshire area at all well, being from Australia!!

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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 December 07 08:46 GMT (UK) »

Hi Kylie

Neither do I - I'm from France!

To get the rest of the information that is included in a marriage entry you need to order the microfilm of Sutton St Nicholas parish register from your nearest Family History Centre of the LDS - details of centres can be found on www.familysearch.org. There are quite a lot in Australia.

It could even say that she was a widow which would change everything. You can't simply go from what's on the IGI, which is only an index, particularly when there are cross parish marriages. Reference to the original entry is essential.

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David
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Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 December 07 10:10 GMT (UK) »

David and Kylie,
I believe I searched for about 5 years either side of  1786.  Whittlesey - a bit like Ely - has literally scores of baptismal entries for each year.  The various vicars must have been extremly busy.  Maybe they too relied an "an abundant shower of curates" to help with the workload...(Just been reading Charlotte Bronte's "Shirley", so please excuse the literary reference!)
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 December 07 10:39 GMT (UK) »

In 1841 Sarah's age was 50 (ie 50-54); in 1851 she was 68 (this one is so inconsistent it must be wrong - additionally she had a 10 year old son living with her in 1841, which would make her 48 at his birth, which is a bit toppish); in 1861 67; and in 1871 77.

The only consistency is the last two, which is why I think that a birth year of 1793/4 is more likely than 1786 (where did this come from?), in which case if Keith went up to 1791 he may have missed her.

I thought the collective term for curates was a plague, rather than a shower! But who am I to disagree with a Bronte (or a Sherwood for that matter!)?

David
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Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Beds:   Cople: Luke/Spencer
            Everton: Hale
            Henlow: Cooper/Watts/Sabey
            Potton:  Merrill
            Southill: Faulkner/Litchfield/Sabey
            Woburn/Husborne Crawley: Surkitt
Hunts:  Gt Gransden: Merrill/Chandler/Medlock
            Toseland: Surkitt/Hedge/Corn         
Cambs:  Bourn: Bowd
             Eltisley: Medlock
             Graveley: Ford/Revell
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 December 07 10:53 GMT (UK) »

David,
It's the very first line of the novel, so hard to miss!  But returning to the purpose of this thread, I'll have a further look towards 1793/4 when next I'm up on Castle Hill - probably not till the festive excesses are over, in a brand new 2008...
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Re: Baptism circa 1786 lookup please
« Reply #12 on: Monday 17 December 07 09:59 GMT (UK) »

David and Keith,
Many many thanks to you both for your advice and assistance.

I will wait to see what luck Keith has checking the baptisms circa 1792-5, and in the mean time look into finding a local LDS centre for the marriage microfilms.

Hope you both have a very merry christmas, and look forward to hearing from you in the new year!

Kylie B
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