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The only Margaret Greenhow I can find was b. c. 1837 Bampton Westmorland
Are you certain of your date
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Still wondering if your dates are correct
1871 census shows a margaret Knowles b. c.1862 Milnthorpe -with parents Robert and Ellen
1871 also shows margaret Knowles b. c. 1829 Hugill - parents Roger/margaret -this margaret fits with your detils for Margaret Greenhow-as she was b. c. 1829 Grasmere!
Have you got the daughters the wrong way around??
I didn't know margaret married - what other info do you have -and do you want the full 1871 census for margaret and Roger and family??
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it seems this margaret and Roger are this couple
Marriage
Jun qtr 1856
margaret preston
Roger Knowles
Kendall
10b 765
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We can rule out margaret Knowles b. Hugill -daughter of Margaret and Roger -as she was still unmarried in 1901 and living with her father and some siblings -strangley enough in lancashire!!!!
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Hi Tracey,
Just checked 1871 John Gill
and then (I think) found them in 1861, which sheds more light on things
1861
Cleator
Cumberland
John Gill Head m 36 iron Ore Miner Crosthwaite
Margaret wife 38 graystock
Mary daughter 9 Graystock
Isaac son 8 Crossthwaite
Joseph son 6 Crossthwaite
Dinah daughter 5 Crossthwaite
John son 2 Crossthwaite
Margaret 10mths Cleator
Abraham Greenbow Lodger 22 Graysock
William Jones Lodger 21 Cornwell
RG9 3951 39 26
I think lodger Abraham Greenbow is really Abraham Greenhow -margaret's brother
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Marriage
Dec qtr 1850
Cockermouth
on same page
John Gill
Margaret greenhow
25 95
Now this causes a little mystery!
1851 it seems John and margaret were living apart and Margaret was going by her maiden name !!!
Possibly it is because margaret was working as a servant and her employer hadn't changed her name (or didn't know she was married??)
Daughter mary arrived 1851 -so maybe margaret stayed on at work until she had the baby 
Also John was living with his parents -although I suspect his mother was possibly his stepmother
Maybe these census will explain my suspicions!!!
1841
Mungrindale
Greystoke
beck Side
John Mandate head 30 Farmer
Elizabeth 28
Joseph 8
Sarah 7
Isaac 5
Jane 3
Elizabeth 1
Robert Wilkinson 16 ag lab
MARGARET GREENHOW 13 ag lab
John Headlop 33 ag lab
Margaret Harding 21 ag lab
all b. in county
HO107 172 7 9
Then think this is margaret's family
1841
Hungrisdale
Greystoke
Richard Greenhow 33 ag lab
Mary 40
John 19
Sarah 12
Elizabeth 10
Dinah 8
Abraham 5
John Harrison 41 ag lab
HO107 172 6 7
1851
Hukton Hill?
Penruddock?
Ann parker Head U Inn keeper Greystoke
Thomas Parker brother U 58 Master CordwinerGreystoke
MARGARET GREENHOW servant U 23 Inn maid Greystoke
Robert Simpson servant 14 Sevant of all work Bongate
HO107 2426 48 10
meanwhile...
waiting for his wife....
1851
Brett hall
newlands
Isaac Gill Head M 49 Farmer Crossthwaite
Jane wife 37 Brigham
John son MARRIED 25 crossthwaite
Mary daughter U 17 Crossthwaite
William son 7 Crossthwaite
Dawson son 5 crossthwaite
Tyson son 4 Crossthwaite
Jane daughter 1 Crossthwaite
Ho107 2434 236 7
interesting!!!
Suz
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This looks like John with father in 1841
Boad Hole
newlands
Crossthwaite
Isaac Gill 35 farmer
John 15
Isaac 10
Mary 9
Sarah Hird 70 Ind
Susan Harrison 20 FS
all b in county
(on same page there are sevaral Tyson families/family members)
then there is this marriage
Mar qtr 1843
Cockermouth
on same page
Jane Tyson
Isaac Gill
25 63
so it seems jane was John's stepmother -and also explains where the name "Tyson" as a forename originates
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This is only my opinion - but the 1841 I gave you with John -father Isaac and then 1851 - the names of John's siblings and half siblings "fit" with what john called his children -especilly the "Tyson" -and John also called a son Isaac- so I think this is a much better bet.
What may have thrown your "new rellie" out is On 1841(I think) Issac was transcribed as Jane !!! Image reads Isaac -but quite difficult to read
If either of you have margaret/John's marriage cert , then that will confirm John's father's name
Be good to hear what you and "new rellie" agree on
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no not sure of the date as i have found a relli and trying to check dates and places are right 
I dont know this part of the tree 
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Her 1841 census received this morning was ........