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Topic: John Wise B. Braywoodside Berks went to Adelaide S.A. around 1841 (Read 802 times)
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Abiam
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Hello Dee and friends,
You may remember the long rigmarole with Rose Dobson earlier this year! Well I now have a totally unexpected member of my Mother's family who emigrated to Australia in 1841. We have just received the copy of a letter written by him on the 26 Dec 1841. This is so exciting to see an actual letter written by a Great Great Uncle. It is very hard to read but states they arrived in Port Adelaide on the 12 September 1841.
Mentioned in the letter are a Mr Dashwood (believed to have become Police Commissioner found on Australian Biog Web site) and a Mr Lovejoy and there is talk of cattle and of a bull that they brought from home " is safe and well". John talks of a house being built and ready in a week but Dashwood and Lovejoy are at "Captans Fields" writing very difficult.
We would be grateful for any help,
Abiam
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DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!!!!
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!!!
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deeiluka
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Hi Abiam,
Unfortunately there is no mention of your John WISE in BISA ....The Biographical Index of South Australians. If there had been, it would have made the search for information so much easier.
However, there is this possibility of his arrival......
from http://www.familyhistorysa.info/
WEST / (WISE?) John arrived 1841-11-20 on Orissa from London 1841-06-26
Sources given as the .....
Manifests of Vessels Arriving from Overseas 1838-42, SA Archives, GRG 41/8 (formerly A 743)
Newspaper passenger lists
There is also this marriage of a John WISE.....
John WISE aged 33 and single married Ann WILSON aged 24 and single on 3rd May 1850 at Holy Trinity Church Adelaide.
Fathers were not recorded
Ref: Ade V 4/83
If you think this could be your John Wise, there are the births of a couple of children. What do you think?
......dee
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deeiluka
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Don't think the details would gain much, Sue and Abiam.....
......just checked the Deaths index and information is basic.......
John WISE aged 35 status not known died 11 June 1854
Death place not known
No relatives listed
Ref = Ade S 3/71
But it does look like the John Wise who married Ann Wilson.
......dee
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deeiluka
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I'll post the births of both children of John Wise and Ann Wilson. as they were both born before the death of John Wise. (How annoying that the father's name wasn't given at the marriage!)
William WISE born 19 Feb 1851 at Nr the Meadows
Ref = Ade 3/171
Arthur WISE borm 28 Aug 1853 at Parkhurst
Ref = Ade 4/203
If you think this is probably your John Wise, Abiam, (and I think it probably is), then I'll see what else I can find about the children.
......dee
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deeiluka
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The son Arthur is listed in BISA.
Got to go do the Christmas food shop now, but will post the information when I get back.
......dee
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deeiluka
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Here's what I could find in BISA about Arthur.....
Arthur WISE
born 28 Aug 1853 Mt Barker SA
died by 1952
Parent = John
0ccupation = Grazier
Residence = Normanville
Religion = C/E
married 1894 SA Emily Roebuck nee FENTON
Roebuck
born c1869 SRY ENG
died 28 Jan 1952 at Yankalilla SA
Par: Henry
Children = daughter
I won't go any further till I hear back from you, Abiam.....in case I am on the wrong track......
......dee
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Abiam
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Hello Dee,
We are convinced you have the right man! Firstly I made an error in the first post it was the 23 November 1841 that he arrived in Adelaide. We have be doing a lot of Googling and reckon he possibly went out as a servant? general factotem? to Mr Dashwood and his family.
We think he started off at or near Eyers Flats and Captons Fields which were near to Adelaide. He talks of 500 head of Oxen - I wonder if you can tell us of a website thay gives a good history of the area in the 1840's in relation to new arrivals and cattle farming.
We are very grateful for the information you have found and would like you to find more if it is possible.
I did look on the BISA for John but no luck. Look forward to hearing from you,
Abiam
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TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!!!
DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!!!!
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!!!
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Hi Abiam
The following link is a good source for historic place names in South Australia - but I cannot see the names you have mentioned listed. I wonder if they were property [farm] names. You may like to have a browse.
http://www.slsa.sa.gov.au/manning/search.html
Cheers & Seasons Greetings
Cando
Edit
Found a reference to Ayres Flats - states is may be mispelt and should be Eyres Flats about 6 miles from Clarendon. Clarendon is a pretty spot in the Adelaide Hills.
You can zoom out from the following link to see its position from the City of Adelaide.
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&output=html&hl=en&q=clarendon+south+australia&zoom=6
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About to go cook my evening meal now, Abiam....will post whatever else I can find afterwards. I already have Arthur's marriage.
Not sure if I can help you re the history side of it, but will try. Someone else may be able to do so.
.....dee
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Found this in SA Register of Personal Notices.
4 May 1850
May 4th, 1850 at Trinity Church, by the Rev. James Farrell, John Wise, farmer, Parkhurst, to Anne, eldest daughter of Robert Wilson, Kircaldy, Fifeshire, Scotland.
Regards, Sashar
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Researching:
Ireland: Farrelly, Brady, Bourke/Burke & poss Smyth/Smith, Connor
Scotland: Paterson, MacGregor, Graham
Derbyshire: Richardson, Bryer
Germany/Prussia: Hein, Nuske, Milich, Baum
Australia: Farrelly, Paterson, Richardson, Hein, Milich, Smith/Smyth
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Abiam
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Thank you all, this is very exciting and thank you all for your help. Enjoy your meal Dee! Look forward to hearing whatever you can find....
Abiam
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TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!!!
DOBSON,Berks, Wilts.DOPSON, Fyfield, Wilts
SMITH, WEBB, Little Gransden, Gamlingay, Cambs
WEBB, Hatley St George, Hunts
HUNT, Wanborough, Swindon, Wilts
TUBB, Hungerford, Berks, EGERTON, Highworth, Wilts
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!!!!
WISE, South Australia, WISE, Fawley, Berks
WISE, Bray, Binfield, Berks
WYSE, Wise, Maidenhead, Berks
VINCE, VINCENT, St Mary Bourne, Hants, Bucks, Berks
TUCKWELL ANYWHERE!!!
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deeiluka
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Arthur's marriage.....
Arthur WISE aged 35 and single married Emily Roebuck FENTON aged 24 and single on 28 March 1894 at St Peter, Glenelg.
Fathers = Arthur WISE & Henry Roebuck FENTON
Ref = Ade 178/1268
Off to look for children......
.....dee
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deeiluka
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Looks like BISA was right.....just the one daughter.....
Annie Augusta Emily WISE born 30 Sep 1900 at Yankalilla
Parents = Arthur WISE & Emily Roebuck FENTON
Ref = Yan 666/344
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