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Topic: McAngus, McKenzie & Tarrel, Hilton of Cadboll (Read 1828 times)
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GDub71
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HI,
I'm interested in anyone descended from McAngus's from Hilton of Cadboll. It seems that everyone of the name has origins in this small village. My Gt Grandmother Ann McAngus was born there in 1902, the daughter of Donald McAngus and Dolina McKenzie. The family were mainly fisher-folk going all the way back as far as records exist (almost 1700). They also employed a limited number of male forenames; Hugh, Donald, Andrew, David, John and Alexander being prolific.
The Mckenzie's and Tarrel's both intermarried with the McAngus family on several occasions. If you do have connections let me know and we can see if we tie it altogether!
Graham
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Banffshire - WILSON, RIACH, CALDER, MUIRY, PETERKIN, CRAIB, OGG, CRUICKSHANK, FARQUHAR, COPLAND, HAY, SHAW, HIND, CURRIE, STRATHDEE, MORRISON, WISEMAN, MOIR, MILNE, SHEPHERD, BLACK, BRUCE, RAMSAY, PEARSON, MCPHERSON, SHEED, MCANDIE
Morayshire - MAVER, PHINN
Aberdeenshire - MCINTOSH, GILLAN
Kincardineshire - DUTHIE
Ross-shire - MCANGUS, MCKENZIE, TARRELL,
Inverness-shire - MACKAY, FERGUSON, MACCUISH, BEATON, GILLIES, MACDONALD, MACVICAR, MACDIARMID
Louth - KIERAN, KANE, FEGAN, HOEY, WARD
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colin72
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Hello Graham,
I am a descendant of George Sutherland and Sophia MacKenzie who lived in Hilton of Cadboll. A fair number of my family branches lived in Hilton and Balintore during the 1800s and 1900s.
I noticed you had mentioned about the McAngus, McKenzie and Tarrel families. I was wondering if I am correct in thinking that some Tarrel individuals sometimes went by the last name McKenzie?
By any chance do you have any connection to a certain Isabel Tarrel who married Hugh Sutherland on December 3, 1829 in Fearn (I believe their marriage would of taken place in Hilton) ?
Take care for now!
Colin
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GDub71
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Judging by the IGI, your Isabel Tarrel would have been either:
b.17/08/1808 , duaghter of Donald Tarrel and Janet Ross
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b.13/10/1808, daughter of Alexander Tarrel and Janet Main
and it looks like Donald and Alexander are brothers anyway. I think they're both sons of Alexander Tarrel and Isabel MacLemon (MacLeman) born 1785 and 1782 respectively.
There could be, and probably is a connection with my Tarrel's. As for the name being interchanged with McKenzie, I''m not sure. I know that back around 1800, in Fearn, Gaelic names such as Ogg or this one I found; McAlastervig, were anglicized where possible, or simply replaced by a common local name, and I believe it was the Minister who chose this for them. But, I could be wrong on that acccount.
Graham
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Banffshire - WILSON, RIACH, CALDER, MUIRY, PETERKIN, CRAIB, OGG, CRUICKSHANK, FARQUHAR, COPLAND, HAY, SHAW, HIND, CURRIE, STRATHDEE, MORRISON, WISEMAN, MOIR, MILNE, SHEPHERD, BLACK, BRUCE, RAMSAY, PEARSON, MCPHERSON, SHEED, MCANDIE
Morayshire - MAVER, PHINN
Aberdeenshire - MCINTOSH, GILLAN
Kincardineshire - DUTHIE
Ross-shire - MCANGUS, MCKENZIE, TARRELL,
Inverness-shire - MACKAY, FERGUSON, MACCUISH, BEATON, GILLIES, MACDONALD, MACVICAR, MACDIARMID
Louth - KIERAN, KANE, FEGAN, HOEY, WARD
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larry77488
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I am part of the McAngus family from Hilton which moved to the US.
William McAngus was born in Hilton about 1842 and went to Texas in 1867. He was the son of Donald McAngus (c. 1800-1851/61) and Barbara Vass (c. 1799-after 1863).
If anyone is interested in this Texas side of the family, just let me know and I will supply details.
--Larry Jackson
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GDub71
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Hi Larry, I too am descended from Donald McAngus and Barbara Vass through their son Hugh. Your ancestor William was born at Hilton of Cadboll on 24th October 1841.
I believe he married a Jessie McKenzie, then "Sailed to America with his betrothed, leaving Liverpool in October 1866, they encountered a bad storm lasting several days in the Irish Sea. Went to work for a large landowner in Texas."
I have on my tree a grand-daughter for William and Jessie, called Ruth Jackson (who probably supplied the emigration details - I forget), which would indicate some connection to yourself, am I right.
I would be very interested in any information about this line of the family. If you don't want to post it all on here, then feel free to PM me!
Graham
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Banffshire - WILSON, RIACH, CALDER, MUIRY, PETERKIN, CRAIB, OGG, CRUICKSHANK, FARQUHAR, COPLAND, HAY, SHAW, HIND, CURRIE, STRATHDEE, MORRISON, WISEMAN, MOIR, MILNE, SHEPHERD, BLACK, BRUCE, RAMSAY, PEARSON, MCPHERSON, SHEED, MCANDIE
Morayshire - MAVER, PHINN
Aberdeenshire - MCINTOSH, GILLAN
Kincardineshire - DUTHIE
Ross-shire - MCANGUS, MCKENZIE, TARRELL,
Inverness-shire - MACKAY, FERGUSON, MACCUISH, BEATON, GILLIES, MACDONALD, MACVICAR, MACDIARMID
Louth - KIERAN, KANE, FEGAN, HOEY, WARD
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larry77488
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Hi, Graham.
Yes, I am the eldest son of Ruth Jackson, who passed away in April. She was the last living grandchild of William, the McAngus who came to Texas.
I wrote a family history several years ago which included some information on Hilton. I will post here the first few paragraphs of one chapter. If you are interested, I will be happy to send you the entire book by email.
--Larry Jackson
Texas
The village of Hilton, on the eastern coast of Scotland, has been home to the MacAngus family for generations. When the national census takers came to Hilton in 1851, they found a 50-year-old fisherman named Donald MacAngus, who is the forebear of the Texas McAngus clan.
Five children were living at home with Donald and his wife Barbara Vass. The oldest son was Andrew, then 20 to 25 years old. He, like his father before him, had been born in Fearn, the parish in which Hilton lies. His mother, however, had been born in the nearby parish of Nigg.
Next in age was David, then 12, followed by Hugh, age 10, William, age 8, and Barbara, age 7. There were at least two older sisters, Nelly and Helen, who were no longer living at home.
For some reason, the family had not been listed in Hilton in the national census conducted 10 years earlier, in 1841. Numerous other MacAnguses were listed, though. And every one of the six male heads of household named MacAngus was a fisherman.
Hilton was, and still is, a small village on the eastern coast of a peninsula extending into the Moray Firth. This is one of the bays that come inland from the North Sea. In the eighth and ninth centuries, Norse raiders plundered this area. Where the bay plunges deepest into Scotland lies the city of Inverness, some 30 miles to the south of Hilton. South of Inverness is Loch Ness, famous for its “monster” and the largest of all the Scottish lochs.
In the 1841 census, the parish of Fearn was part of “Enumeration District No. 5” in the District of Easter Ross. Fearn was described as “The South District, comprehending the fishing villages of Balintore and Hilton.” Hilton, incidentally, was also spelled as “Hilltown,” which gives a clue to its terrain.
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wbalfour
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If you want to see some pictures of Hilton of Cadboll go to www.northernsights.net
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hiltonladdie
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hi Graham; I can not email you for some reason. I would like the history of the Texas MacAnguses ,hope this finds you and your family all well,Tom Brunton
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moodie
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Hi Graham
You posted this a while ago , so I wonder if you are still online. I too am a direct descendent of the family MacAngus family you mention, although I am confused by the mention of Ann b. 1902. My maternal Grandmother, age 95 years is the only remaining (alive) of the 14 children born to Dolina Mackenzie(b.1876,d.1952?) and Donald MacAngus(b.1860's,d.1940?). I have the children listed as Bella (never married, no children), Jessie, Dan, Nancy(ah, maybe Ann? - she lived in Tain), Andrew, Hughie, Mina, John, Babsie, Chrissie(my Gran), Nellie, Dina, David + Alexander (both David + Alexander died in childhood of TB).
Dolina's mother was called Ann. Dolina was an only child who had 14!
Did you mention or was it another post that they are not in Hilton in 1841 census - they were in Portgower, Parish of Loth - around the coast going North - they seemed to have done a lot of that!
If you want further info. let me know. Although my Gran left 'the village' (as they all call it) at age 14 , I live about 12 miles or so from it.
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FRASER-MACKENZIE
MACKAY-GUNN/ROBERTSON+MACANGUS-MACKENZIE/TARREL
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GDub71
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Hi there,
Yes my Gt Granny Ann McAngus was more commonly called Nancy. She married Neil Mackay from Tain. That's where my mother Angela Mackay grew up. Her father Donald Mackay was a milkie and still lives in Tain.
I have a daughter Margaret McAngus down for Donald & Dolina as well. That was information that came from my grandfather way back. I have her as unmarried, although it's possible my Grandfather got that worng somehow.
Do you have dates of birth for the other siblings? because unfortunately I don't, but I would like to obtain that information for my tree.
Graham
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Banffshire - WILSON, RIACH, CALDER, MUIRY, PETERKIN, CRAIB, OGG, CRUICKSHANK, FARQUHAR, COPLAND, HAY, SHAW, HIND, CURRIE, STRATHDEE, MORRISON, WISEMAN, MOIR, MILNE, SHEPHERD, BLACK, BRUCE, RAMSAY, PEARSON, MCPHERSON, SHEED, MCANDIE
Morayshire - MAVER, PHINN
Aberdeenshire - MCINTOSH, GILLAN
Kincardineshire - DUTHIE
Ross-shire - MCANGUS, MCKENZIE, TARRELL,
Inverness-shire - MACKAY, FERGUSON, MACCUISH, BEATON, GILLIES, MACDONALD, MACVICAR, MACDIARMID
Louth - KIERAN, KANE, FEGAN, HOEY, WARD
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jessudd
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Hello!
I'd appreciate information on the Texas family if you're still following this post. I believe I am descended through their William McAngus and Jessie McKenzie's son William McAngus (married to Lizzie Ross). I'm just beginning to trace the family, so I'd love to get some confirmation on this and any more information that you might have.
Also, I'm a bit confused--I've read some reports that they are from Tain in Ross shire, and here it says they are from Hilton of Cadboll. I'm not at all familiar with the area, so I'd also appreciate some clarification on their location. Thank so much!!
-Jessica
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GDub71
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Hi Jessica,
I have Will McAngus and Elizabeth Ross on my tree with 4 children: William, Jessie, Marvin and Chrystelle.
Will's parents were as you might know; William McAngus and Jessie McKenzie. Both were from Hilton of Cadboll in Fearn parish, Ross-shire. William sailed for America in 1866 and Jessie in 1867. They were married at Pflugerville later in 1867. William was born 24/10/1841 at Loth in Sutherland. The family had moved there for a brief spell, but returned to Hilton. Jessie was born at Hilton in 1849.
William's parents were Donald McAngus and Barbara Vass, my GT Gt Gt Gt Grandparents. Donald was born at Hilton on 16/10/1799. He was a fisherman, as most of the male poulation of Hilton were. His parents were; Donald McAngus b.1776 and Helen Ogg (or Young). This Donald was the son of Donald McAngus and Margaret Vass. He was born at Hilton in 1747. I believe he was the son of John Mcangus and Ann Cameron.
Hope that helps
- Graham
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Banffshire - WILSON, RIACH, CALDER, MUIRY, PETERKIN, CRAIB, OGG, CRUICKSHANK, FARQUHAR, COPLAND, HAY, SHAW, HIND, CURRIE, STRATHDEE, MORRISON, WISEMAN, MOIR, MILNE, SHEPHERD, BLACK, BRUCE, RAMSAY, PEARSON, MCPHERSON, SHEED, MCANDIE
Morayshire - MAVER, PHINN
Aberdeenshire - MCINTOSH, GILLAN
Kincardineshire - DUTHIE
Ross-shire - MCANGUS, MCKENZIE, TARRELL,
Inverness-shire - MACKAY, FERGUSON, MACCUISH, BEATON, GILLIES, MACDONALD, MACVICAR, MACDIARMID
Louth - KIERAN, KANE, FEGAN, HOEY, WARD
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WMGettys
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Hi, Graham.
Yes, I am the eldest son of Ruth Jackson, who passed away in April. She was the last living grandchild of William, the McAngus who came to Texas.
I wrote a family history several years ago which included some information on Hilton. I will post here the first few paragraphs of one chapter. If you are interested, I will be happy to send you the entire book by email.
--Larry Jackson
Texas
Hi Larry, My Name is William McAngus Gettys, I am the GG Grandson of William and Jesse McAngus. My Grandfather was Eli Hugh "Mac" McAngus, through their son, Hugh. I would be very interested to see your book if you are still following this post.
Best wishes,
Will
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Urquhart59
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Hello,
My Grandmother's name was Bella McAngus and she came from Hilton. She married Donald Urquhart of Tain and moved to Leicester, England, where my father was born. She died in 1969 and I think she was around 89 years old. We used to visit Hilton many years ago. I certainly remember the name "Tarrel", but I'm unsure if they were relatives or not. I may be able to find more information from my mother and some of the old family records if you're interested.
Regards,
Simon Urquhart
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