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Birth look-up please for Lucy Who?
« on: Thursday 27 December 07 17:36 GMT (UK) »

I do have another post open for a look-up for Lucy Greaves, but now beginning to think that she was registered under her mother's name.

If anyone is going to Derbyshire Records Office, could they please look for a Lucy Huh  born c. 29 January 1884.  Her father's name, according to her marriage cert, was Daniel Greaves, but now think that her parents were not married.

Many thanks, Polly   Smiley
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Re: Birth look-up please for Lucy Who?
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 December 07 18:27 GMT (UK) »

Hi

It is not possible to look up birth entries to get that info even if the surname is known.  Without the surname - it's impossible

Do you have any clues at all as to a possible surname
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Re: Birth look-up please for Lucy Who?
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 December 07 18:59 GMT (UK) »

Hi Polly,

Don't you think she was the illegitimate daughter of one of John and Sarah's daughter's (Rachel maybe?) and named her uncle as her father at her marriage?

Are you very sure of the birth date? There's a birth registration in June 1893 Chesterfield that could fit the bill?  Smiley

edit: Don't think it's Rachel after all - she marries in 1882  Sad
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Re: Birth look-up please for Lucy Who?
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 December 07 21:18 GMT (UK) »

Hi Polly

A long shot I know - but have you considered the possibility that both Lucy & Samuel may not have been connected biologically to the Greaves family?  They may have been the children of a neighbour/friend/relative who died and were then brought up by the Greaves family and given their name

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I am in contact with someone who may be sending for Samuel's birth certificate, so may find out something from that. - soon I hope!

This may be the best way forward

For anybody else reading this post - please see background to this query on the following link

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=269910.new;topicseen#new
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Re: Birth look-up please for Lucy Who?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 30 December 07 11:07 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Tati and CaroleW (also for the pm reply Carole)

I am sure of the birth date as she was my 84yr old neighbour's mother.  Just cannot find a birth registration for her to send for a certificate, so thought that if someone could look for a baptism (maybe I should have put that as the subject?) record for that period at the records office for a Lucy (surely can't be that many, as it wasn't a common name then, was it?) and find out her mother's surname, then I could get the cert. (She wasn't the Lucy Greaves registered at Stourbridge, as I have checked that out).

I did present my neighbour with a booklet with all (well. at lot!) of her family info at Christmas, but the name of her grandmother left a big gap.  And it's bugging me!

Thanks, Polly
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Re: Birth look-up please for Lucy Who?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 30 December 07 17:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi Polly

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so thought that if someone could look for a baptism (maybe I should have put that as the subject?) record for that period at the records office for a Lucy (surely can't be that many, as it wasn't a common name then, was it?)


Yes - Lucy was a very common name in those days.  The 1891 census has 228 Lucy's born in Derbyshire between 1883-1885

Baptisms could take place weeks/months and sometimes years after a birth - and sometimes not at all as there is nothing to support a baptismal entry in Lucy's case

If Lucy was baptised under another surname - how would anybody know whether it was the right "Lucy" entry?  It's looking most unlikely that Daniel was her biological father and if she was illegitimate, we don't know her mothers name so there is no way of making a connection to the Greaves surname

If she was baptised as Greaves - you don't know which church the (possible) baptism took place in so you can imagine the task of looking through every baptismal record for every church from February 1884 - whenever

They were living in Killamarsh in 1891 and Lucy is shown as born "Mosbro" (Mosborough) and Samuel in Holbrook which may be a clue to possible churches for baptismal purposes
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