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janinez
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Please Help. Lost my leads.
« on: Monday 28 September 09 05:25 UTC (UK) »

Hi

I am looking for Hugh COLL and Catherine WHITTAKER. Supposedly they were in creagadoos as in the 1841 to 1851 Taughboyne parish census. Their was a Maria COLL looking for them to get the pension, a daughter? Another daughter is suposed to be Kate COLL BUT i know nothing more of her either. I can't fit her in and they also had a son James John COLL born in Co. Dongeal but can't find a thing about him either and when/if Catherine and Hugh came to New Zealand i have no idea. James did come although don't know when. He married Mary Ann Bremner 28 April 1896 in Auckland, Coromandel, New Zealand. James died 4 Feb 1915 ans is buried in Waihi Cemetery, Coromandel, New Zealand. Anyone can help me it would be very much appreciated. Have been looking for years now. Wrong places perhaps, even if you can point me in the right direction I would very appreciative. Thanks

Janine
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #1 on: Monday 28 September 09 07:43 UTC (UK) »

I am looking for Hugh COLL and Catherine WHITTAKER. Supposedly they were in creagadoos as in the 1841 to 1851 Taughboyne parish census. Their was a Maria COLL looking for them to get the pension, a daughter? Another daughter is suposed to be Kate COLL BUT i know nothing more of her either. I can't fit her in...
Am a bit confused by the quoted part of your post. Is the information from a pension application? If so, the 1841 and 1851 details are extracted from the Irish census records (which no longer survive) not from parish records. Maria Coll is likely the applicant (for herself not parents).
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janinez
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #2 on: Monday 28 September 09 19:46 UTC (UK) »

Sorry Just read the top of the page. It was in under the Old Age Pension Act (1908). Yes Maria Was the applicant but cannot find record of her either except for that little snippet.

Maria was living (i guess) C/- Philip Doherty, Main St, St Johnston.

Her and James John parents are eluding me. Any ideas?

Apologies for the mis understanding. I am not good at wording myself!  Smiley

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Janine
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 14 November 09 01:14 UTC (UK) »

I have now found hugh Coll's father to be Daniel Coll. No known mother as yet. James John Coll was baptised in St Johnston Co. Dongeal in 1860 so they have to be there somewhere. Maybe a paid researcher may be able to help me do you think? Just an idea so I can get a lead to somewhere. The sponsors were a Mary Coll and Robert Gormly. No adress is shown on the record. Denomination is Roman Catholic.

What do you think? Any ideas at all?

Thanks

Janine
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 14 November 09 10:41 UTC (UK) »

MacCall, NacColl, the name Coll is linked to the clan Donald (MacDonald's) and followed the Stewarts of Appin Scotland.
Griiffith's valuation William Whittaker, Creadghadoos, Taughboyne Parish 1857
1901 Census Creadghoos, Coll, William, Bridget, Catherine, Hugh, William, John
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #5 on: Saturday 14 November 09 11:39 UTC (UK) »

William Coll, a widower, is on Cavanacaw 1911 census
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 14 November 09 12:51 UTC (UK) »

1901 census
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~donegal/1901creaghadoost.htm

1911 census
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Donegal/St__Johnstown/Cavanacaw/506693/

William Coll married Bridget ? Jul - Sep 1895

Robert Gormley and Mary Coll had children
Mary b. May 2 1865  Isabella b. May 25 1867  Hannah b. Feb 12 1871  Hugh b. Oct 20 1877 per IGI index

Catherine Coll b. May 3 1866 to Hugh Coll and Catherine Whittaker
Hugh Coll died Apr - Jun 1891  Catherine Whittaker Coll died Jan - Mar 1881


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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 15 November 09 13:15 UTC (UK) »

Hugh Coll married Catherine Whittaker in 1851 - marriage was registered in Civil registration
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 15 November 09 18:15 UTC (UK) »

marriage.

HUGH COLL AGE 22 TO CATHERINE WHITAKER AGE 21 ON 7-11-1851 TAUGHBOYNE,DONEGAL,IRE.

FATHERS. DANIEL COLL & JAMES WHITAKER.


                                                                   regards mary.
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #9 on: Monday 16 November 09 14:07 UTC (UK) »

According to the IGI website,

James John Coll was born to Hugh Coll and Catherine Whitaker on 15th Aug 1863 in Cork not Donegal and died 4th Feb 1915.

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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #10 on: Monday 16 November 09 14:32 UTC (UK) »

According to the IGI website,
James John Coll was born to Hugh Coll and Catherine Whitaker on 15th Aug 1863 in Cork not Donegal and died 4th Feb 1915.

IGI details are all submitted so may be incorrect. If the birthdate is right then Hugh was born before civil registration of births so there will be no birth certificate.
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #11 on: Monday 16 November 09 16:24 UTC (UK) »

found no marriage for sarah,but i found this one these people are from the same area.

JAMES WHITTAKER TO MARY JANE BROWN AGE 18 ON 14-10-1852 TAUGHBOYNE,DONEGAL,IRE.

FATHERS. JAMES WHITTAKER & ARTHUR BROWN.


                                                                             regards mary.
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #12 on: Monday 16 November 09 21:49 UTC (UK) »

Hi there

Thank you all so much.

I do think that the IGI is wrong on James Coll as I have his church baptism record: which definitely reads Date of Baptism/birth: 2.9.1860. Parish/District: St Johnston and the county: Co Dongeal. Parents are Hugh Coll and Catherine Whittaker.  Is the other James (IGI one) Which date is wrong - is there a way to tell? or, another James, perhaps, do you think or has whoever  put on the IGI got it wrong or another one??? How can I tell if the IGI is sourced at all for clarification or is there a way? Interesting. Have a lot to look for and go on with now. Will see if I can find any more siblings for James and proof that Mary Coll is either his sister or Aunty (hugh Coll's sister maybe?).  More puzzles to figure out  Grin

Will go and see what else I can find too and will let you all know
Thanks you's  Cheesy 

Janine

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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #13 on: Friday 20 November 09 12:12 UTC (UK) »

Looks like Creagadoos Taughboyne Parish were Flax Seed growers for the Linen Industry.
You could try The National Library of Ireland, Kildare Street, Dublin 2, Ireland.
National Archives of Ireland, Bishop Street, Dublin 8, Ireland from 1901 & 1911 Census, Tithes, Pension Claims, Estate Papers.
Genealogical Office, 2 Kildare Street, Dublin 2, Ireland.

The Tithe Applotment Book might give you information on your family.

People leaving County Donegal around 1850 left on JJ Cooke Ships.
up to know the only Coll leaving ireland in 1866 were John and Patrick on ship Mermaid going to Lyttleton New Zealand.
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janinez
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Re: Please Help. Lost my leads.
« Reply #14 on: Today at 20:04:40 »

Hi there Rathmore

Thank you for that. Are the records all on line do you know?, or would I have to go to the places to search the records? Will have a good look at a few of the links I have and see what I come up with and google the places you have mentioned.

Thank you

Janine
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