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Topic: Recent marriages and births - Smith in Scarborough COMPLETED THANKS (Read 457 times)
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MansfieldTerrier
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Henry Pashby, born Levisham 1816, and wife Mary
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Hi folks
Sorry, but in the good ol' days I would have scoured the Ancestry files for these myself, but since they now charge for the privilege I'm scuppered. 
Anyway, could someone please help out here? I'm doing a bit of research for a distant relative. I'm looking for the following ...
- Marriage between ERIC SMITH and GERTRUDE MENNELL in Scarborough, possibly around the mid 1920s
- Subsequent births of children Michael Smith, twins June and Betty (might be Elizabeth), then Brian and Ian, although possibly not in that order; I believe that Michael was the eldest
- The marriage of MICHAEL SMITH to MAVIS POTTAGE probably in the 1950s or early 1960s
My friend is descended from the Pottage connection, whereas my father was a descendent of Gertrude Mennell's aunt, Kate Sutton.
Hoping that you can help out here,
Many thanks in advance!
MT 
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PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area SEDMAN in Scarborough BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, Scarborough SUTTON in Wintringham, North Yorks. Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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MansfieldTerrier
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OK Barabara - I'll check out those two ideas. Sorry - I simply assumed that I am now persona non gratia throughout the Ancestry searching faciliites.
Happy New year, by the way!
MT
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PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area SEDMAN in Scarborough BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, Scarborough SUTTON in Wintringham, North Yorks. Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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Happy New Year MT!
Just teasing, will have a quick look for you!
Just found a Gertrude E. Mennell married Herbert F. Wicker 1924 Dec Qu Scarborough 9d 830
do you think she could have been married twice?
Barbara
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Thanks Barbara.
Just to let you know that I certainly CAN'T use Ancestry ... I've just tried searching both the compete and partial records, but can't view any images without stumping up the dosh to join-up.
The partials show marriages for Mennells, but not the one I want.
The one that YOU put up on here - Wicker+Mennell - I already know about but is not the one I want. It's all a bit confusing there - two Mennell brothers married two Sutton sisters; that marriage is of a child from the marriage of the older siblings (Fred Mennell and Sarah Ann Sutton), whereas I'm chasing offspring of the younger siblings, Albert Mennell and Eliza Sutton; Gertrude Mennell was THEIR sixth child.
For what it's worth, all the Gertrudes in the Mennell family were named after the very youngest Sutton sister, Gertrude Mary Sutton (1884-1962).
MT
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PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area SEDMAN in Scarborough BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, Scarborough SUTTON in Wintringham, North Yorks. Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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MansfieldTerrier
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Gertrude Mennell Dec qu 1928 Scarborough 9d 851 to Eric Smith
Ta v. muchly - again!
MT
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MansfieldTerrier
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Thank you, Emma!
Happy New Year to you, too!
MT
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PASHBY in Scarborough, Levisham, and outlying area SEDMAN in Scarborough BIRD in Easington, Patrington, Sculcoates and Hull DOBSON in Edinburgh, Wakefield, Scarborough SUTTON in Wintringham, North Yorks. Census information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
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MansfieldTerrier
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Oh ... well ... maybe try the Leeds area? I know that Gertie Mennell was born in Bramley, so maybe they moved back there after the 1920s?
Or maybe the other children were born in the late 1930s/early 1940s?
AH!! Just remembered - they emigrated later on, leaving Biff (Michael) behind with his aunties; but I'm sure that the other siblings were born by then.
Sorry to put you to all this trouble, Emma! 
MT
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MansfieldTerrier
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Lovely!
And in return ...
Been in touch with dad who was a friend of Michael 'Biff' Smith in his youth and can add the following information which MIGHT just be of assistance to you!
- Family lived in Beverley (hence the Hull birth of Brian) before the war
- Ian - no ideas at all, but fairly certain that Michael WAS the oldest
- The twins June and Betty may well have been born about 1931 or 1932
- Family moved out to India round about wartime, leaving Michael alone with his great-aunts in Scarborough
- Michael died around about 2004, possibly in Nuneaton
- Brian died about 1977 in the Wakefield area, of alcohol poisoning
I will see if I can find the 2004 death myself as I think that Ancestry will let me do that bit!
EDIT: No, Ancestry still won't let me verify any dates of birth for Michael Smiths who have died, so I'm stuck again!
MT
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