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Purdy/Gawthorne - 1871 look up
« on: Wednesday 02 January 08 16:46 GMT (UK) »

Can any one help with the following query on my Purdy line?

I have a Joseph PURDY who married a Mary Jane (Gawthorne) in 1876

The information I have on Mary Jane Gawthorne is She was born abt 1853

In the 1881 census they are living with Joseph's father in Heanor, along with their daughter Ruth born 1877.

To date I had not been able to find out who Mary Jane's parents where.

It has been suggested to me that her parent’s where Jane Gawthorne and Isaiah Lancashire.  I have found a marriage for Jane Gawthorne to Isaiah Lancashire in 1855.

I have not been able to find a birth for Mary Jane Gawthorne, but have one for Mary Jane Lancashire in 1852

If this is the same person, I wonder why she was registered as Lancashire at birth (even though the parents where not married till 1855! ) and why she was listed as a Gawthorne on her marriage???

Can anyone she her on an earlier census? 

Thanks in advance

Soo
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Re: Purdy/Gawthorne - 1871 look up
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 17:18 GMT (UK) »

1871 RG10/3480/62/12.
does'nt really give you the info that you are seeking but here it is anyway.

thomas hardy age 69. b. draycott. occ. retired tradesman. head.
catherine hardy age 40. b. heanor. occ. housekeeper.daughter.
mary.j.gawthorn age 19. b. belper.occ. housemaid..
william mclure age 19. b. nottinghamshire. occ. drapers asst.
living at heanor hall,heanor,derbyshire.
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Re: Purdy/Gawthorne - 1871 look up
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 17:24 GMT (UK) »

1861

Western Spot Ripley Derbys

Isaiah Lancashire Head 32 Coal miner b Denby Derbyshire
Jane wife 29 b Belper Derbyshire
Mary Jane dau 8 b Belper Derbys
Ester Ann dau 5 b Derbys


RG9/ 2511; Folio 30 Page 11

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Purdy/Gawthorne - 1871 look up
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 17:28 GMT (UK) »

It may be worthwhile sending for the birth cert if you haven't already got it.

Is Isaiah named as father on the marriage cert?

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: Purdy/Gawthorne - 1871 look up
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 17:34 GMT (UK) »

Thanks to both Tricia and woozle

I think I will order the marriage certificate to clarify this.

Still wonder why she used Gawthorn as her surname when her birth was reistered under 'Lancashire'?

Thanks again
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Re: Purdy/Gawthorne - 1871 look up
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 02 January 08 17:45 GMT (UK) »

You may never know but I think it may be a good idea to get the birth cert as well just to be sure how it describes her mum - single or married!!

Maybe she was living with Isaiah and people thought they were married - maybe they intended getting married so she registered her as Lancashire so daughter wouldn't know she was illegitimate.

Whatever the reason, Mary Jane reverted to Gawthorne - maybe as a result of something she learned.

Sometimes it is difficult to give a positive answer when we don't know what was going on at the time.

The only Mary Jane Gawthorne born in 1852 that I can find was registered in Westminster.

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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