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poppysmum
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Hi
A friend has a German ancestry and I really need some help to get further back!
We have a Henry lauffer and his wife franscisca living in glasgow in 1901. He is a cigar importer. they have a 20 year old son henry and a 23 year old adolphus. However they seem to have married in 1895 in Glasgow with him being 61 and her being 42. very strange 
I can't see them in the 1891 census so i take it they were not here yet.
I have got their death certificates and Henry Lauffer's parents were Adolph Lauffer and Dorothea Brusch.
Fransisca's parents were Gustav Olunk and Wilhelmina _____
I have looked on the family search site and can't find their births.
Does anyone know where we can find any more information?
The family story is that there was a bit of a scandal and that Henry Lauffer was part of a large German family and was forced to leave Germany.
Thanks, Caroline 
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi Poppysmum,
I looked in the National Archives site
http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/search.asp
for LAUFFER and found this:
Nationality and Naturalisation: Lauffer, Adolf, from Germany. Resident in Glasgow. Certificate 7,463 issued 15 December 1920. 1920
Could this be the son, Adolphus ? On the one hand, it seems a bit late butas there is noe record of his parents getting naturalised, maybe he decided to go ahead and do it.
If the friend can afford it, it might be worth getting the papers, to find out more.
Otherwise, does she have any information about where in Germany they would have come from ??
regards,
Bob
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poppysmum
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that's great thanks!!
All we know is from the census, where it says place of birth, it says germany and we can't read the rest but on the ancestry transcription it says Sidfich don't know if this is any good.
I will have a look at that link and see how much it costs to get the papers
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Berlin-Bob
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Hi Poppysmum,
maybe you attach that bit of the census image here.
If you don't have access, maybe you could put up the census reference here, then somebody could attach that bit.
Place names are very important for german research, as they don't have the massive amounts of online data that we have here.
Bob
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poppysmum
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Does anyone know how to get the papers from the archives? 
We know that adolphus was unable to fight in the war and that he changed his name to Andrew.
I've tried googliong sidfich and found nothing 
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poppysmum
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sorry, i don't know how to save the census page i have tried but not got anywhere.
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Source Citation: Parish: Glasgow Bridgeton; ED: 49; Line: 4; Year: 1901.
Is this it?
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Hi poppysmum,
I've tried to speak "soundexly" as well and came up with "süd-, sied-, syd-". But then I had another look at the posting and realised that the birthplace was German Sidfich (Deutsch-Sidfich) and it could be a place in the areas formerly belonging to Germany or where a lot of German Aussiedlers (like Donauschwaben etc.) lived. Quite a few places do start with Deutsch-. Tried a few sites, but couldn't find anything.
mz
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Hello, Poppysmum,
I have had a look on Church records from Schleswig (a town in the North of Prussia): Maybe - so as Berlin-Bob suspected- this is real the german place like "Sidfich".
For any Schleswig- Churches the Mormones have records and there are also census lists, but it is a hard way to read all the filmes of Church-books. But if they have a personal register, then you can find easy the name LAUFFER or you find not. If any LAUFFER in the records, then theother are not faraway!
But I am not sure, if Schleswig is the real place for your ancestors.
I wish you a Good progress!
frankowolf from Berlin /Germany
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Rapunzel
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Hello
I have looked up the Glasgow 1901 census and found the following entry.
Listed are Henry Lauffer as Head. He is given as importer of cigars and cigarettes, owner (equivalent of self-employed today), aged 66. Place of birth is Germany (no town mentioned) and he is noted as still being a German subject - as are all members of the family!
Frances, his wife is 48.
Son Henry, 23 is a packer of muslin goods, worker.
Son Adolphus, 20 is a joiner, worker.
They were living at 299 Swanston Street in Bridgeton, Glasgow.
I hope this helps you further.
Regards
Rapunzel
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