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Topic: A marriage pre-1810 in Long Wittenham area between Francis POOL(E) and Margaret (Read 141 times)
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Keith Sherwood
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Hi, Everyone,
I'm having problems posting on the correct County board here, with some places that were in Berkshire pre-1974 being in Oxfordshire today; I found the same difficulty when dealing with Hereford/Worcestershire a while ago.
To get to the point, I'm trying to find a possible marriage pre-1810 for a Francis POOL(E) who was probably the individual baptised on 25th Nov. 1772 in Long Wittenham, and Margaret (surname not yet known). Both were still alive in Long Wittenham in the 1841 Census, but there appear to be two children born to them, Clara in 1810 and John in 1814 both in Dorchester, just across the county line in Oxfordshire.
I notice that both places are close together, and in Oxon, on the modern map. So it is possible the marriage might have taken place in Dorchester or another village close by. All the male POOLE's I have come across seem to have been Ag Labs, so I can't imagine them wandering far away from the area.
If anyone has come across this wedding, I'd be delighted to hear the details!
Very best wishes,
keith
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jillruss
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Hi Keith,
It looks like you've got a bit of a mystery on your hands!
The marriage didn't take place in Dorchester but I looked up the 2 baptisms you mentioned and -
Baptised Sept 16 1810 Clara Pool illegitimate d/o Margaret Pool
Baptised July 3 1814 John Pool s/o Francis, blacksmith & Margaret - Wittenham.
Then, back in Long Wittenham, there are banns published 3-17 May 1807 for a proposed marriage between Francis Poole otp and Elizabeth Tomkins, sojourner otp.
The marriage isn't recorded in the Long Wittenham PRs, so no idea if it ever actually took place.
I'll leave you to work out what it all means!! Good luck! 
Jill
(Above look ups from Oxon FHS CDs)
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See Surname Interests Table +
Major brickwalls:
John Frith mge to Fanny, Bucks? c 1798
Bathsheba Boothroyd bp W Yks c1802
John Bishop bp E Yks c1758
Joseph Symonds mg to Sarah, prob Berks c 1735-40
John Horwood mg to Martha, Berks c 1735-40
Sarah Sculler bp Berks area c 1675
Paul Phillips bp Berks/Bucks c 1720
William Newell bp Berks/Bucks/Oxon c 1765
Richard Troughton mg to Jane, Westmoreland c 1732
Mary Simon bp Shrops c.1795
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Keith Sherwood
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Jill,
Well, seems like I've/you've stumbled across a bit of POOLE family scandal here! Looks like a jilted bride followed by another liaison with another woman. These blacksmiths must have been a hot-blooded breed, with that sweating over the anvil with the furnace blazing away. Interesting that when Clara was born, her mother Margaret already had the surname POOL, and they certainly seem to be living together in their old age in Long Wittenham in the 1841 Census, aged 70 and 60 respectively(rounded up or down!).
So, perhaps they married sometime after 1810, but on the other hand perhaps they didn't bother...
I've ordered that CD which contains the Long Wittenham PR's from the Oxfordshire FHS, by the way, and so I'll soon be able to dwell on all those POOLE entries and make up my own mind about what might have happened.
How very exciting this all is! ( ...and I wonder what became of poor Elizabeth Tomkins after 1807...? Perhaps her sojourn didn't last long in L. Wittenham...)
keith
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KN
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Keith
Sure that you will have lots of fun with the Long Wittenham CD - it's one that I don't have but can help you with some Pooles from other nearby parishes. These Pooles may, or may NOT be anything to do with your lot, but you never know .........
Sutton Courtenay
marriage
1756 Thomas Poole of Long Wittenham m Ann Kimber, by licence, witnesses Ann Allnutt & Rob. Johnson
Culham
baptisms
1691 June 28 Anne Poole d Thomas
1696 May 31 Thomas s Thomas
1697 Sept 19 Mary d Thomas
1881 April 24 Margaret d Henry & Annie - gardener
marriage
1729 Aug 16 Stait, John of Newnham, nr Wallingford to Poole, Mary
1864 Sept 2 Mouldey, Job BRKMKR (Brickmaker?), to Elizabeth Poole of Long Wittenham, father John Poole, witness F Mouldey.
1873 Dec 25 Poole, Henry, gardener, of Abingdon, father George Poole, to Annie Webb, father Joseph Webb. Witnesses William Poole & Emily Webb
burial
1696 Nov 12, Poole, Thomas s Thomas
1725 Dec 23 Thomas Poole
1887 April 23, Poole, George, 78
1897 Nov 9 Poole, Henry 53
1898 May 24 Jane 87 of Sutton Courtenay
1916 April 12 Mary 74 of Sutton Courtenay
1918 Oct 22 Poole, Anne, 67 of Abingdon
Abingdon St Helens
baptism
Poole, George April 30, 1809, so Thomas & Mary, blacksmith
Poole, Sarah 1799, March 10, d/o Thomas & Mary, blacksmith
There are quite a few other references to Pool(e) in the Abingdon registers but I shan't list them all unless you are particularly interested in them. Let me know!
KN
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Keith Sherwood
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KN,
An even bigger wow! than the last time, when you came up with those Long Wittenham POOL(E) burials on the thread I started on the OXON board (I think, seems a long time ago!).
Thanks so much for all your efforts again, and I must get out my roadmap and check exactly where Sutton Courtenay and Culham are. Abingdon I know about, as it's now a big place...
Of course these records are all important in their own way, and builds up the bigger picture on the POOL(E)'s in the area. There's a couple of similar weddings in Long Wittenham for a John POOL marrying an Ann BITMEAD in 1775, and a John POOLE marrying an Ann KAYWARD in 1767 (from the IGI), and I'm trying to sort out which pair were the parents of the infamous (?) Francis POOLE baptised in 1772; so I'm assuming there was no skulduggery going on a generation before, and that Ann (nee) KAYWARD was his mum...
Will be able to sort it out more confidently when the CD arrives, I hope.
This is all such engrossing fun, but bedtime looms...
keith
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Keith Sherwood
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Just an update to say that I've had a chance to look at all those POOL(E) entries for long Wittenham, and there's plenty of them!
Eighteen marriages, fifty-five baptisms and forty two burials...
There's a very peculiar double baptismal entry on Jan 11th 1807 for a John POOLE and a Joseph Dedman POOLE, sons of Francis and Mary.
There's a burial on August 30th the same year for Joseph Dedman POOLE, infant, but it doesn't make the Francis POOLE situation prior to 1810 any clearer...
keith
p.s. and that 1767 marriage seems to say that John POOLE's bride was an Ann HAYWARD not KAYWARD. (Tempted to say WAYWARD spelling, but won't...)
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