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Topic: BEACHAM, Sarah - Bristol marriage 1857-1860 *COMPLETED* (Read 280 times)
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chbeacham
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My great-aunt Sarah Ann Beacham was baptised 29 Jan 1837 in Tickenham Somerset.
At age 4 in the 1841 census she lives with her parents George & Ann.
I can't find her in the 1851 census, even looking especially in Yatton (1851 Yatton part of census is missing from Ancestry.com, but she's not in Yatton in looking elsewhere in the 1851 census).
I am fairly sure she married in Bristol with BMD listings in June qtr 1857 for Sarah Ann Beacham & June qtr 1860 for Sarah Beacham. There are other Sarah Beachams in Somerset & Gloucestershire, so I have to make sure I get the right one.
Her parents married on 27 Feb 1836 in St Thomas's Church in Bristol, so its possible she married there as well.
Can someone find her in Bristol church parish registers so I know which husband is hers?
I've tried to figure out all the permutations using the 1861 census of husband's and wife's names to figure out who married whom but this led to no-where but pulling out my hair & driving me crazy.
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Ecneps
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Hi,
What about this one (Clevedon quite near Tickenham)
1851 HO107/1947 fol.290 p.39
7 Temple St, Bristol, Glos
in household of William Dodge, fruiterer
Sarah Beacham 14 house servant Cleavedon, Somersetshire
For the marriage certs, you can always try asking the local registrar to check father's name before you buy the certificate
Barbara
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rosie99
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Hi
There is a marriage for Sarah Beacham 19th April 1860 St Philip and St Jacob Bristol on the BIVR
she married a William Allen...her fathers name was Robert if it helps you to eliminate one
Rosie
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chbeacham
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for the 1851 census I think that may very well be my great-aunt, as I don't think the other Bristol Sarah Beacham would be listed as being from Clevedon.
As far as the Apr-Jun qtr 1860 marriage, I had three possible grooms from FreeBMD: William Moss, William Lancelot Lipscomb, and Francis George Davis. Perhaps Allen is a middle name for one of the two Williams? Since my great-aunt's father's name (my great-grandfather) is George (not Robert), I think this eliminates the 1860 Bristol marriage, leaving the Apr-Jun qtr 1857 marriage as the likely one for my great-aunt, if someone can firm up the evidence for this, perhaps find a parish registry entry, or figure out if her 1857 groom was William Jones or John Mahon.
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rosie99
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Hi
I have looked at freebmd for June qtr 1860 and there is a William Allen married at Bristol ref 103 and not 163 as Sarahs. I would imagine it has probably been transcribed wrong as of the six names showing including Sarahs one is not Bristol (William Lancelot Lipscomb). I would definately agree that this is not the right record.
Rosie
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ChasH
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Freebmd gives the registration of another Sarah Ann Beacham in the Reg. Dist of Axbridge in 1839.
Admittedly no direct help but the info may help you to eliminate others who are clouding the issue.
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Beverstone: DAVIES, HIGGS, PERROT.
Bisley: DAVIS, GARDINER, GRIME, JEFFERIES, PEACEY, FRANKLIN, COOK. BROWN.
Chipping Sodbury: HARDING.
Colerne: GOLDEN.
Gt Badminton: DAVIES.
Horsley: ADAMS, COOK, GAZARD, HILL, PRIDE, TEAKLE.
Kings Stanley: BISHOP, PINEGAR.
Minchinhampton, MASON
N Nibley: SHATFORD, WAYMAN, WOODWARD.
Stinchcombe: HAZEL, WAYMAN.
Stonehouse: GABB, GREGORY.
Wotton-U-Edge: PAYNE, SPENCER, RICE.
N. Wraxall: BLAKE.
Mostly 18th & 19th C's
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ChasH
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Thought I'd have another go at your enigmatic Sarah. My comments on your first post are in {}
My great-aunt Sarah Ann Beacham was baptised 29 Jan 1837 in Tickenham Somerset.
{The IGI gives three Somerset "extracted" Sarah Ann Beacham baptisms (q.v.) in an appropriate time frame, none in Tickenham. see later}
At age 4 in the 1841 census she lives with her parents George & Ann.
{You did not give the census location.}
I can't find her in the 1851 census, {Nor could I.}
{Rest snipped}
You gave Tickenham as the baptismal location. Where did this come from? The LDS have not extracted the data from the Tickenham film of church records; have you searched them? Bear in mind that older children and adults are often baptized, so her birth . . . .
I searched for SAB in the 1841 but did not find her. Where did you find the info.?
When all avenues have been explored to no avail one must question the baseline. How sure are you of the facts you give and how did you arrive at them? Was it by a step by step methodology via birth and marriage certificates? If it was by hearsay or censuses, the data should be verified by certs.
Regards
Chas
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Beverstone: DAVIES, HIGGS, PERROT.
Bisley: DAVIS, GARDINER, GRIME, JEFFERIES, PEACEY, FRANKLIN, COOK. BROWN.
Chipping Sodbury: HARDING.
Colerne: GOLDEN.
Gt Badminton: DAVIES.
Horsley: ADAMS, COOK, GAZARD, HILL, PRIDE, TEAKLE.
Kings Stanley: BISHOP, PINEGAR.
Minchinhampton, MASON
N Nibley: SHATFORD, WAYMAN, WOODWARD.
Stinchcombe: HAZEL, WAYMAN.
Stonehouse: GABB, GREGORY.
Wotton-U-Edge: PAYNE, SPENCER, RICE.
N. Wraxall: BLAKE.
Mostly 18th & 19th C's
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chbeacham
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The only other evidence I have for my great-aunt Sarah Ann Beacham's existence is the 1837 Tickenham baptism (her mother Ann Alvis was from Tickenham), the 1841 census below, as well as the 1851 census that Barbara so kindly found. I can't find a death, and feel strongly that the 1857 Bristol marriage BMD is hers, now that the 1860 has been ruled out by Rosie by having Robert as her father's name.
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Marriages Jun 1857 Bristol 6a 181
Beacham Sarah Ann
Haberfield Susan Lou
Jones William
Mahon John
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1841 census Clevedon, Moor Lane /Beecham,
Hundred: Portbury / Moor Lane / Clevedon
County/Island: Somerset
Registration district: Bedminster
Sub-registration district: Yatton
Ann Beecham 26
George Beecham 25
Harriett Beecham 2
Sarah Beecham 4
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I've tried finding 1861 and 1871 census entries for William Jones & John Mahon with Susan & Sarah Ann as wives names to no avail so far. If I could find one, then by clicking on Sarah Ann it should list her place of birth as Tickenham or Clevedon, or perhaps another Beacham relative may be visiting or living with her in 1861 or 1871.
Alternatively, if Bristol churches have parish registries there might be a listing to complement the BMD listing.
Charles Beacham
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chbeacham
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I've ordered marriage cert. as suggested although living in USA will take 3-4 weeks
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