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« on: Thursday 03 January 08 21:29 GMT (UK) »

I am trying to find the death certificate of my half uncle he was born i think August 1925 to Richard and Grace Owens.  He had a sister also Grace. I have her details but want to find Uncle Ernie.  I know he had children however I don't know their details.  He divorced and I think may have moved interstate.

Any help very much appreciated

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« Reply #1 on: Thursday 03 January 08 22:00 GMT (UK) »

could this be him.

16746/1948      OWENS      ERNEST JOHN      DEAN      NORAH JOYCE      SUTHERLAND

5488/1953      OWENS      ERNEST JOHN      MACCAULEY      MARIE JUNE      GILGANDRA





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« Reply #2 on: Thursday 03 January 08 22:22 GMT (UK) »

yes i'd say that's him now i see it i recall hearing of a dean and the other one would have to be a strong probability.

just checked out the death in 1976 not him parents wrong.  I think he died interstate.

Thanks

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« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 January 08 07:05 GMT (UK) »

Helloo  there

here is  his death
in Victoria
Ernest John Owens died aged 32 at Ruth (probably rutherglen) in 1959 reg no 26305

father Richard Erne Owens mother Grace Ellen Gelbart.

you  can  down  load  his death certificate of  line from  the Victorian  BDM's

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« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 January 08 07:28 GMT (UK) »

Thanks so much Jenn

Much appreciated i'll get the cert.  do they list children on vic death certs?

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« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 January 08 07:30 GMT (UK) »

Researching your family tree in Victoria
This page is here to give some guidance to the basic records and resources available relating to families that lived here in Victoria, Australia

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The Victorian system of registration is one of the best in the world, there is plenty of useful information on both the certificates and the indexes.

What you'll find on a Victorian certificate of birth, death or marriage:

Births
Date and place of birth; name of child and whether present or not; name of parents (including mother's maiden name); occupation of parents; ages and birthplace of parents; date and place of marriage of parents; previous children of their marriage noting living or deceased; signature, description and address of the person who gave the information; names of witnesses; date and place of registation.

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Date and place of death; name and surname; occupation of the deceased; sex and age; cause of death, duration of illness, medical attendant by whom certified and when he last saw deceased; name and surname of parents (if known) including mother's maiden surname; signature, description and address of the person who gave the information; signature of deputy registrar, date and where registered, when and where buried, undertaker whom certified; name and religion of Minister, or names of witnesses of burial; place of birth of the deceased and how long he or she resided in the Australian colonies or states (stating which), name of spouse, place of marriage, age at marriage; names and ages of children of the deceased.

Marriages
Date and place of marriage; name and surnames; conjugal condition, whether bachelor or spinster, widow or widower, stating date of decease of former wife or husband; children by each former marriage; birthplace; occupation; age; residence (present and usual); parent's names of each party (including mother's maiden name) and occupation of father; signatures of the parties and witnesses; signature of Minister. Prior to 1963 the date of termination of previous marriages of the parties is also shown.

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« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 January 08 07:44 GMT (UK) »

Helloo  there

here is  his death
in Victoria
Ernest John Owens died aged 32 at Ruth (probably rutherglen) in 1959 reg no 26305

father Richard Erne Owens mother Grace Ellen Gelbart.

you  can  down  load  his death certificate of  line from  the Victorian  BDM's

regards Jenn

been trying and it keeps coming up unsuccessfully

meegan
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« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 January 08 08:04 GMT (UK) »

Hi All,
There may be one or 2 war records relating to your OWENS men.  I am not sure if they are yours but you can decide that yourself.

OWENS, Ernest John, DOB 2nd August 1920, born at Gillgate and enlisted in 1941 when living at Cronulla. Next of Kin RICHARD OWENS.

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au

OWENS, Richard Ernest. Lives at Cronulla and his wife is next of kin and her name is VIOLET PEARL OWENS.  Later in the file his wife is R. E. Owens.  bit confusing Huh

He was a POW in Germany.  It is a very interesting file.  Hope he is yours.  No mention that I can see of Grace though.

http://www.naa.gov.au

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« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 January 08 08:35 GMT (UK) »

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been trying and it keeps coming up unsuccessfully

not  sure of  what  you actually  mean?

regards Jenn
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« Reply #9 on: Friday 04 January 08 09:02 GMT (UK) »

Have you indicated if it is a birth, death or marriage that you want - if you haven't marked the right one, then it will not match the surname with the year and reg number.   

This happened to me, took me a while to work out what I was doing wrong!  Another time I had the year as 1868 instead of 1968.  You only have to put the surname in the name box.

I just went through the preliminary order process and it came up all right in the basket for me, so there is no fault with the web site.

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« Reply #10 on: Friday 04 January 08 09:47 GMT (UK) »

Sorry Jenn I have now got my certificate and it gives me two cousins to try and track down. Thanks also ChristineR.

Sue I think the WW2 Ernest John is mine I think he put his age up.  My dad seems to think he enlisted.  I looked at the file he was only in for 11 mths which indicate that they may have found out his correct age.

Richard Ernest is my granddad he married twice. Ernest and my dad were half brothers only dad though Uncle Ernie had died even younger than he did.  didn't know he got married.  so that will be a surprise to him.

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« Reply #11 on: Friday 04 January 08 09:54 GMT (UK) »

Hello  there Meegna 

that is  excellent  news  for  your dad,  glad  you  got  the certificate  allright in  the end.

Have you  used  The Ryerson  index at all?  That might  help  with deaths for  the cousins  but  hopefully  they  might be still alive

kidn regards Jenn
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« Reply #12 on: Friday 04 January 08 09:59 GMT (UK) »

I will give it a go and hopefully not turn them up.

son b 1949 & dau 1952

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« Reply #13 on: Friday 04 January 08 22:34 GMT (UK) »

thank you to everyone who helped me in tracking down uncle ernie now it's time to find the cousins.

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