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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #30 on: Friday 04 January 08 02:56 GMT (UK) »

Thanks Tricia

Also need to find who Hannah married
Looking on freebmd there's  a marriage in St Ives Quarter ending June  1856
Possible spouses are Alexander Kirby or William Laxton

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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #31 on: Friday 04 January 08 21:08 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tricia,

I just found Hephzibah RIDER listed on the cambs 1841 census index online. Some of the family are with her I think?
Would you mind posting it for me please?

HO107/83/6 Folio 10A Haddenham

Am excited!

Thanks in advance,
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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #32 on: Friday 04 January 08 21:13 GMT (UK) »

Just one more pretty please.

Joseph RIDER Haddenham in 1851 age 70 HO107/1764 137B
wondering who else is there looks like wife Elizabeth and a Mary Ann at least.

and Joseph in 1861 age 81 in Haddenham too. 112A

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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #33 on: Friday 04 January 08 22:52 GMT (UK) »

Sorry haven't responded to these - didn't receive any notifications - very strange


Right - back to 1841  - the parents are NOT with the children - they are with a Kidd family and this name cropped up back on page 1 of this thread on the 1861 census so there is a very strong connection.
Perhaps these are Elizabeth Ryder's parents



1841

Main Street Haddenham

James Kidd 67 Wheelwright
Catherine Kidd 66
David Kidd 21 Wheelwright
Catherine Rider 8
Anne Rider 6
Elizabeth 4
Hephzibar 2  (under female column)

The Kidds are recorded as born in Cambs
The Riders are recorded as born out of County
They are all in same building but with seperate enumeration marks so they are 2 families in same dwelling

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #34 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:07 GMT (UK) »

1851

Chapel Street Haddenham

Joseph Rider Head 70 Agric lab b Little Shelford Cambs
Elizabeth wife 64 Agric Lab's wife b Haddenham Cambs
Mary Ann Granddau 15 Agric lab's granddaughter b Haddenham Cambs

HO107/ 1764 Folio 137 Page 1

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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« Reply #35 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:13 GMT (UK) »

1861

Private house, Haddenham


Joseph Rider Head Widower 81 Pauper b Little Shelford Cambs

RG9/1037 Folio 112 Page 1
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #36 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:13 GMT (UK) »

Did you mean maybe James and Catherine Kidd were the grandparents? Or having different numbers would that seem otherwise?

I found a child William Kidd (that would fit into the family born William Kidd Ryder mar qtr 1841 and died dec 1841 St Ives so that's another connection to the KIDD family.

If John and Elizabeth Ryder (says they're parents on 1851) to the 4 kids wonder where they are in 1861?
I haven't got their daughter Elizabeth in 1861 either but she married in 1859 so would be Elizabeth WIMPRESS in 1861.



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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #37 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:16 GMT (UK) »

Are you also able to find Annie KIDD in 1851 census (born1847ish Millingham Cambs)

Hoping that will sho who her parents are likely to be.

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« Reply #38 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:25 GMT (UK) »

1861

13 Church Road Skirbeck Lincolnshire
 
William Laxton Head 26 Carpenter b Huntingdonshire
Hannah Laxton wife 26 b St Ives
John William Ryder Laxton son 5 b Boston Lincolnshire
Clara Laxton dau 4 b Boston Lincolnshire
Rebecca Laxton dau 1 b Boston Lincolnshire   

RG9/2338 Folio 25 Page 13

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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #39 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:27 GMT (UK) »

I would hazard a guess that they are grandparents - but just a guess
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #40 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:31 GMT (UK) »

1861

Back Street St Ives
  
John Ryder Head 52  Grocer b Haddenham
Elizabeth Ryder wife 52  b Haddenham
Rebecca Ryder dau 17 b St Ives
Annie Kidd visitor 14 b Millinghan Cambs
 
 
 RG9; Piece: 979; Folio: 60; Page: 38

Tricia

Now - am I getting confused or isn't this John and Elizabeth in 1861- posted on the first page

My head is starting to spin - and I don't drink Grin Grin
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #41 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:39 GMT (UK) »

yeah meant to say wonder where John and ELizabeth were in 1841. But after that last post I think I better double check I haven't got them already.
Blame it on there heat here yet another day in excess of 40 degrees C forecast.
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« Reply #42 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:46 GMT (UK) »

1861 - It's Willingham

Green, Five Bells, Willingham Cambs

John Kidd Head 42  Carpenter and Publican employing 1 man b Haddenham Isle of Ely
Sarah Kidd wife 42 b Haddenham Isle of Ely
Robert Kidd son 19 Carpenter's app b Willingham Cambs
Eliza Kidd dau 8 b Willingham
John Kidd son 6 b Willingham
Ann Kidd dau 4 b Willingham
Sarah Kidd dau 2 b Willingham
Mary Ann Hawes visitor 4  b Haddenham
Selina Hawes visitor 9 b Haddenham  
George Robinson carpenter 22  Carpenter journeyman b Haddenham

 
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #43 on: Friday 04 January 08 23:47 GMT (UK) »

We definitely do not have John and Elizabeth in 1841 Cry
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Nottinghamshire,Bulwell: Bowskill, Everley, Gent, Haywood, Houghton, Wilkinson.
Nottinghamshire, Mansfield:- Baxter
Buckinghamshire: Charlesworth, Fowler
Derbyshire:Brimington:- Adams, Baxter
London: Bird, Charlesworth, Coleman, Desmoulins, Everard, Jarman, Quinton, Richards
Italy: Gioffredi
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Re: 1871 census lookup please RYDER
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 05 January 08 00:27 GMT (UK) »

There's 2 more KIDD kids (without parents looking from index?)

Haddenham HO107/83/6 6A Robert 10 and Harriett 8.
Would you mind posting that please?

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