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Witham, Hull 1871
« on: Friday 04 January 08 12:13 GMT (UK) »

Hi All

I am trying to find Thomas Hindley Ledran in the 1871 census but with no luck.
His surname has been spelt in various ways over the years including Ledren, Ledran, Le Drau, Ledrew etc so you may get the picture.

Anyway, I know in 1870 he was living in/on Witham, (it still adjoins Holderness Road today) with his new wife Mary Hannah but I can't find them in the 1871 census. Would it be possible for someone to tell me which district Witham was in at the time so I can then try and read through the entries on Witham?

Thanks

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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #1 on: Friday 04 January 08 12:48 GMT (UK) »

Is this Thomas?

1871 RG10/4785 Folio 152
John B Ledran Head 49 b Hull         Labourer
Harriett Ledran Wife 44 b Hull
Thomas Ledran Brother 38 Widr b Hull   ?? Grater
Ada Seyar Niece 4 b Hull
8 Gibsons St, Sculcoates, Yorkshire

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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #2 on: Friday 04 January 08 12:54 GMT (UK) »



   Hi all....

   Willow saw him ...boiler maker Wink

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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #3 on: Friday 04 January 08 15:07 GMT (UK) »

Hi all

Thanks for your efforts there Willow. Smiley

Unfortunately, I forgot to say that Thomas was born in 1848 Embarrassed

The Thomas and John you have found are Thomas Hindley's uncles.

 I figure if someone knows which district Witham was in I could trawl through them and see if they are there under a mistranscription.

And Tazzie, thanks as well, I was wondering what a "grater" was Smiley
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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #4 on: Friday 04 January 08 15:30 GMT (UK) »



   Hi Stan ......

  Check this out....rg10 /4785  f 151 p 24

  Thomas Tedrow hd m 23  foreman in oil mill
  Mary A                  wi m 24
  J W                       SON 5
  A                           DAU 3
  M I                        DAU 2 MONTHS       ALL B HULL

  Look at the original and spelling seems to be ledrow. Any good?

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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #5 on: Friday 04 January 08 15:31 GMT (UK) »




    Cheesy Wink   No Thomas Tedrow in 1881......

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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #6 on: Friday 04 January 08 16:01 GMT (UK) »

 

Hi

On FreeBMD there are births for John W Ledran in 1866, Ann Ledran in 1868 and Mary J Ledran in 1871 all in Sculcoates which would match the children shown on the 1871 entry suggested by Tazzie.

Wife Mary Hannah could have been possibly misheard as Mary Anna ?

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« Reply #7 on: Friday 04 January 08 16:08 GMT (UK) »

 


Although the youngest child is transcribed as M I the second initial on the original document is exactly the same as the J in J W above it.

The address is 15 Arthur’s Terrace, West Sculcoates if that helps.

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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #8 on: Friday 04 January 08 16:14 GMT (UK) »

 
 
Same family in 1881...

RG11/4763 Folio 98 Page 26

Listed as Ledren

DS Wink

Definitely them in 1871....Well spotted Tazzie Cool
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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #9 on: Friday 04 January 08 16:19 GMT (UK) »




   Hi DS.......

  I forgot the address got so carried away with finding the entry. Glad you agree.   Yep MJ for the youngest.

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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #10 on: Friday 04 January 08 16:26 GMT (UK) »

Hi Tazzie/DS

Sorry it took so long to get back, orders are to take the christmas tree etc down Cheesy

The family that Tazzie has suggested is definitely them Grin

It looks to me like either Ledrew or Ledren but either way as DS says the children and ages all fit aswell. Strangely I have found out today that 2 children I knew may be related were in fact son and daughter! They were both Thomas' and his first wife' Ann children. Unfortunately Ann, the mother died in 1870 and John William died in 1875 :'(hence why JW is not listed in the 1881.

This has helped me a great deal so thank you very much indeed!

Cheers

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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #11 on: Friday 04 January 08 16:29 GMT (UK) »

Oh sorry

Forgot to mention Thomas was a Pressman (as in seed crusher) at the oil mill.

Thanks again

Ian

PS. Just for future reference, just how did you find them with such a wide mistranscription?
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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #12 on: Friday 04 January 08 18:11 GMT (UK) »




   Ian ....if I tell you I will have to kill you ...ahaha Cheesy


  Well I put in Ann b@1868
                     Father Thomas
                     mother Mary                  living Yorkshire
Then checked all that came up as Sulcoates.
 The mention of the oil mill clinched it.
    Elimination............that and reading many many parish records over the years .....believe me that'll make you concentrate.

              Best wishes

                    Tazzie
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Re: Witham, Hull 1871
« Reply #13 on: Friday 04 January 08 19:09 GMT (UK) »

Tazzie

Thanks, I wouldn't have come up with that!

Cheers

Ian
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