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1841 & 1851 Census Clophill Bedfordshire
« on: Saturday 05 January 08 04:28 GMT (UK) »

I have found on an index that there are two girls named Susan Garner in the 1841 census one age 14 and one age 11

One of these two marry a Frederick Titmas in January 1851 and I would like to find out which one.

Would someone please beable to check the 1841 for full details of each girl and then the one that is not married in the 1851.

Also would love to have details of Frederick and  Susan Titmas in the 1851.

Clophill is in the Ampthill Registration district

Thank you to anyone who can help


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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Clophill Bedfordshire
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 05 January 08 05:48 GMT (UK) »

Hi Jill

The one that isnt married to Fredrick in 1851 is living in Clophill with her parents George and Elizabeth and is aged 21

If you want full details I will post them

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« Reply #2 on: Saturday 05 January 08 06:17 GMT (UK) »

1851 Cencus-Clophill
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Frederic Titmas 22 head b Clophill    Grocer and Draper
Susan 23 wife b                   "
Sarah Parnell 54 Aunt b       "            Straw Plait maker


Do you know who Susans parents were ?

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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Clophill Bedfordshire
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 05 January 08 06:31 GMT (UK) »

Hi again Jill

I have tried to sort this out and found the 2 Susans (neither in Clophill)in 1841 but due to the rounding up/down of ages in the 1841 and also possible mistranscription of the name one of which is in Clophill its very hard to tell.

I think you defo need the Susan/Frederick marriage cert to assertain who her father was

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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Clophill Bedfordshire
« Reply #4 on: Saturday 05 January 08 09:05 GMT (UK) »

There are two extracted baptism entries at Clophill on the IGI - Susannah Garner daughter of George and Elizabeth on 14 Feb 1830, which fits with the one that Jill found in 1851.

The other was Susannah Garner baptised 26 Sept 1827 daughter of William & Susannah, who must have been the one who married Frederick Titmas - the marriage, extracted, is on the IGI and her father is shown as William

In 1841 Susan Garner 14 and William Garner 12 were living in the same house as Daniel and Susan Odell, both 45 (which covered an age range of 45-49 as ages over 15 were rounded down to the nearest 5 below)  in Clophill (also in the house was Sarah Parrel, 40 - presumably the same Sarah Parrell - not Parnell -, aunt, living with the Titmas's in 1851). Susannah Garner married Daniel Odell in Clophill in 1831 (IGI). A William Garner was buried in Clophill on 15 Sept 1829. Looks very likely that Susan (Garner) Titmas's father died in 1829, her mother remarried Daniel Odell, and they were all living together in 1841.

Susan Parrell married William Garner in 1815 (IGI) and the baptisms of Susan and Sarah Parrell are on the IGI also as extracted entries so are reliable. Looks pretty conclusive that Sarah Parrell was Susan Titmas's aunt (her mother's sister) which ties the relationships up pretty well. I think you can save the £7 for her marriage cert!

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Re: 1841 & 1851 Census Clophill Bedfordshire
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 January 08 05:12 GMT (UK) »

Thank you both very much for the prompt reply. That looks to have sorted out my problem....

From a cloudy muggy NSW Australia

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