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Topic: Frank POPE, photographer of Torquay (Read 457 times)
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Trethewey
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Frank Pope was my Grandfather and what little I know might fill in some gaps for you.
He was born in Plymouth in 1898 and married my grandmother in 1909 and had a photographic shop in Paington (37 Torbay Rd.) around 1911-1913 at the time my father was born. they then seperated but never divorced, according to my mother they seperated because he had other women, but how accurate this is I don't know, my father never mentioned him.
The only other information I have was from his death certificate which gives his address as Bamphylde Rd. Torquay, your great aunts house, and she is stated as his widow but there is a note on it stating he is still married to my grandmother and Anne was not his widow, even though they lived as husband and wife.
He died in April 1944.
I know nothing of where he lived or what he did between the time they seperated and his death or why they never divorced.
though the Kelly's directory in Torquay shows your great aunt living in the guest house from 1941 as Mrs Pope so i suppose they were living together at that time.
if you have any more information I would love to know more about Frank Pope or your Aunt.
Frank had several siblings mentioned in the 1901 census in Plymouth maybe some of their decendants might have more information.
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Trethewey
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It is great to hear back from you so quickly. we have recently moved to the Torquay area which is why i am trying to find out more about my grandfather now and am on hand to visit local libraries etc.
Yes you have the correct family of Popes from the 1901 census, Franks date of birth was 1889, I made a typing error. His father James Pope was a professor of music though I think professor might be a title he gave hinmself.
T. stands for Trethewey which was his grandmothers maiden name, she came from Cornwall.
I have two pictures of Frank, one as a young man and one with my father taken shortly before he died. I think that was the first time they had met since my grandmother left.
the moderator of this site removed your email, as a new member of this site I need to be in contact a couple more times before we can contact each other personally. This i would very much like to do, I think we could help each other. so perhaps we could continue this conversation a few more times till I can use the secure personal message system.
Great to be in contact
Trethewey
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deb usa
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Hi Ebba and Trethewey
How exciting that you have found each other and what a story this is, from two different sides of the family.
I also looked them up in 1891... and saw that James T Pope was a prof of Music .... also Blind from Childhood 
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Travellers = Penfold, Orchard, James
Devon = Middleton, Waterfield, Adams, Clark/e, Gould
Cornwall = Palmer, Carnarton, Slack/Smith. Morris/h
Wales, New Quay = James, Evans
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Ebba
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Hello again Trethewey
Sorry about the business with the email address, I didn't actually realise there was a way of passing them on in private. As you can tell, although I've been a member of this site a while I haven't used it much yet.
Professor of Music, was it? I just couldn't read that word! I also have a photo of Frank, a very nice studio portrait. I will see if I can email it to you at the weekend. Perhaps in due course I can post you the original, which would be nicer. I actually feel quite guilty about my wicked great-aunt making off with your Grandad! Though judging by your mother's comments perhaps he was a bit of a womaniser and swept her off her feet! Such a shame he died so young - what was the cause of death?
I am also very curious about why there was never a divorce, I had always assumed that his wife was Catholic, so if that's not the case then it's a bit strange. You'd imagine that Annie (my g.aunt) would be constantly nagging to be made an Honest Woman! In our family we have always been mildly amused that on Annie's "marriage" (as we thought then), she got promotion from a Bishop (her maiden name) to a Pope! They never had any children of their own, but semi-adopted a niece, which is another slightly odd business that I don't quite understand.
What a shame my Dad is not still alive to hear all this!
Bye for now
Ebba
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Isaacs in London and Bristol; Bishop in Somerset;
Cleave in Devon; Young, Lovell, Hutton & Fenner in Bristol; Lawes & Elliot in Durham and South Wales;
Mortifee/Mortify/Martifee/Martify plus variations, anywhere
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Trethewey
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here again Ebba
I don't think you should feel guilty about your great Aunt, my granmother left him many years before, I am glade he found someone to share his life with, his wife never did. I have no idea why they never divorced, I don't think it was on religious grounds. both my parents are died and there is no one to ask.
information was never given and I never brought the subject up.
my husband is better at computers than me and he will try and make personal contact through this site.
Trethewey
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Ebba
I forgot to add that Frank died of asthma complicated by bronchitis. Asthma runs in the family.
yours Trewethey
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