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juliebenny
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Carey/Cook
« on: Sunday 06 January 08 05:17 GMT (UK) » |
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I'm trying to locate a marriage and shipping details for Matthew Carey (b) Armagh, Ire @1835 & Harriet Cook (b) Hampshire @1832.
They either married in Melbourne (which I can't find) or New Zealand. They had children in Melbourne before sailing to NZ and having more children.
Any information would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Julie
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WoodElf
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Hello,
On the Index to Assisted British Immigration 1839-1871 (PROV: Public Record Office Victoria), there are 4 Harriet Cook's:
Harriet Cook
Age: 26
Arrived: Apr 1857
Ship: Mount Stuart Elphinstone
Book: 11
Page: 346 |
Harriet Cook
Age: 20
Arrived: May 1857
Ship: Grand Trianon
Book: 11
Page: 369
Harriet Cook
Age: 22
Arrived: Nov 1857
Ship: Shalimar
Book: 12
Page: 438
Harriet Cook
Age: 7
Arrived: Jul 1840
Ship: Theresa
Book: 2
Page: 169 -- |
From your details, it's probably the one's that I marked in red.
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McKinnon, McLachlan, Cameron (Fort William area, SCO; SA, Aus); Mewett (Sussex; SA, Aus); Parker (Somerton, Somerset; SA, Aus); Walsh/e (Bouladuff, Tipperary; NSW, Aus); Hill (Northampton; Middlesex, ENG); Hughes (Northampton, ENG); Madrers (ROM; Yorkshire, ENG; NSW, Aus); Knoblauch, Schürle (Kocherstetten/Braunsbach, GER; Yorkshire, ENG), Pratt (Cullompton, Devon; Brighton, Sussex, ENG; Aus); McGrath (Sydney, NSW)
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Hello again,
If you look at FamilySearch.org. There's a marriage between Harriet Cook and Matthew Patrick Carey Abt 1857, Datea, New Zealand. It says that both are from Hampshire, Matthew born abt 1829 and Harriet born abt 1833.
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McKinnon, McLachlan, Cameron (Fort William area, SCO; SA, Aus); Mewett (Sussex; SA, Aus); Parker (Somerton, Somerset; SA, Aus); Walsh/e (Bouladuff, Tipperary; NSW, Aus); Hill (Northampton; Middlesex, ENG); Hughes (Northampton, ENG); Madrers (ROM; Yorkshire, ENG; NSW, Aus); Knoblauch, Schürle (Kocherstetten/Braunsbach, GER; Yorkshire, ENG), Pratt (Cullompton, Devon; Brighton, Sussex, ENG; Aus); McGrath (Sydney, NSW)
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juliebenny
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Thank you both four your replies. I cannot access the shipping records for 1940. I can only access
from PROV Unassisted from 1852 - 1923, but Assisted goes further which I think they were not.
Can u help further?
Thank you
Julie
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Lucy2
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Re: Carey/Cook
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 03:16 GMT (UK) » |
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Hi Julie
Wish we could find you a marriage for Matthew and Harriet but (as per the reply - 30 November - to your previous enquiry) the only Matthew CAREY marriage to a "Harriett" appearing on the NZ index, was in 1866 to Harriett BAYLIS.
The c.1857 marriage found at Familysearch by "Elfie", which mentions "Datea" .... seems likely to have been Patea, in the Taranaki district. [ There is also the CAREY/BAYLISS (sic) marriage listed (as 1865) ... curiously this also apparently took place in Taranaki ] ?
So can you give a few more clues ? The children born in Melbourne .... do you have dates for these 
Likewise the New Zealand born children - any dates ? (IGI shows three daughters born to this couple about 1870 - 1875 and 1877).
Any idea whereabouts in New Zealand, Matthew and Harriett settled ?
Lu
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Re: Carey/Cook
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 08:35 GMT (UK) » |
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Thank you Lu
I've been looking back & found on Harriet Carey's Death cert. that she was married in Melb. to Isaac Baylis they had 2 children which I can't find. I also can't find Isaac's death but will keep looking. Matthew Carey & Harriet had 4 children all born in Pentridge (Coburg now), Parthenia Elizabeth 30/7/1857, Elicia @ 1859, Matthew @1861, Robert @ 1863. Then I have 5 children born in Patea NZ, Frederick Robert @ 1865, David @1867, Lucretia @1870, William Bennett @1873, & Ellen @1875. My direct is Parthenia which confirms parentage.
That must be the marriage in NZ if you have a folio number or something so I can request it I would be extremely grateful.
I have the IGI printouts but no source info. so I cannot confirm from them.
Thank you so much for your reply.
Kind regards
Julie
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Re: Carey/Cook
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 08:50 GMT (UK) » |
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Matthew Carey m Harriet Baylis 1866 (Folio 0567)
have you got Parthenia's birth cert ?
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Lucy2
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Re: Carey/Cook
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 09:51 GMT (UK) » |
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Hi again Julie
Yay, a wee breakthrough ... that's what we like to see 
[ Mk2_Zephyr (nice car ) ... has also supplied the marriage details with Folio number, which you can order from NZ BMD].
Mmmm ... might just have found Harriett and children on their voyage to New Zealand ~ 1864 ?
Have a look at PROV website ~ "Outward Passengers to Interstate, UK and NZ" . Type in surname "CAREY" and in the "ship section" enter the vessel "CLAUD HAMILTON".
Ages of children seem to stack up. Elizabeth ~ perhaps this is Parthenia Elizabeth ? Alicia = Elicia ?
What do you think ? [There seems to be two other children travelling with this group - Charles and Henry)?
Lu
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Re: Carey/Cook
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 12:34 GMT (UK) » |
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Hi Julie
Just can't seem to find "Matthew senior" on passenger list for "Claud Hamilton" - 1864. My experience with these online lists at PROV has been to discover that there are unfortunately, some "typo" errors. The 'fiche records are more reliable and there is sometimes additional information available on them.
Do you have access to the 'fiche records for these PROV passenger lists ?
Also, do you have an "occupation" for Matthew?
Lu
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Re: Carey/Cook
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 13:01 GMT (UK) » |
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Just another thought .....
The "Charles" and "Henry" CAREY on passenger list ... might these be the two BAYLIS children you are "missing" ?
Lu
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juliebenny
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Re: Carey/Cook
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 22:39 GMT (UK) » |
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Thank You Zephyr & Lu 
Yes Zephyr I have Parthenia's Birth cert.
I will have to assume that the "claude hamilton" is when they did come out but Harriet's Death cert states the previous children
were names Robert & Henry (the son-in-law was the informant) & I guess he could have been Charles Robert or vice versa.
I also cannot find Matthew snr on his voyage but will keep looking.
Matthew snr was a Wheelwright & he died in Northcote on 26/10/1899.
On Harriet's Death cert they also referred to matthew as Patrick (which is his middle name) they do seem to get names upside down.
It's great to know when you are somewhat on the right track and fab people are out there willing to help when your unsure.
Hoping to return the favour when I can.
Julie 
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Re: Carey/Cook
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 10 January 08 01:16 GMT (UK) » |
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Hi Julie
Glad we could be of help ~ (some of us also learn lots along the way whilst sharing in other peoples' "journeys")
Yes, it's wise, to treat with caution, the information which pops up on death certs.
Matthew senior may well have arrived in NZ ahead of Harriett and the children ? [I did consider he might have been a mariner or perhaps worked his passage to NZ as a crew member ... came up with one vague possibility? However I'll check the PROV list for "Claud Hamilton" at library in next day or so].
Death of Isaac BAYLIS : Not sure what years you've checked for this? Perhaps Harriett, was NOT in fact a widow, when she took up with Mr. CAREY ? Their eventual marriage was some 9-10 years after the birth of their first child together ?? Perhaps some "event or obstacle" precluded them from marrying sooner ?
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Lucy2
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Hi Julie
Well, checking the PROV fiche record for vessel "CLAUD HAMILTON" - 1864 - I'm afraid, didn't reveal anything.
I did a search of passengers names CAREY (CASEY and other similar looking names) for years 1861 to 1865 ... no sign of Matthew (or Patrick) CAREY - (also checked out "initials" and those just listed as Mr).
Incidentally, Harriett and the children were all listed (place of birth, as ENG - (usual, even though children were born in AUS), they travelled steerage class and disembarked at Taranaki (the online record I think gave 4 ports of call - Wellington, Napier, Picton and Nelson). Ship departed Melbourne on 16 July 1864.
[This is the only person who came close to matching "Matthew Patrick" ~
J. CAREY (36) Male Married Born UK
travelled steerage - Vessel "Brilliant" - departed Melbourne on 5 February 1864 - arrived at Taranaki : ]
Lu
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Re: Carey/Cook
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 January 08 11:59 GMT (UK) » |
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hey julie, I have put some info on your other Carey/Cook thread, hope it helps in some way.
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Lucy2
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Julie
.... you might like to have a look at
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast
some interesting info for "CAREY". 
[Search on > "Matthew Carey" (use "exact phrase option) ] ... it brings up 8 items - the "Taranaki Herald" and "Normanby Star" newspapers contain the info] :
Lu
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