Welcome, Guest. Please login or register for free.
Did you miss your activation email?
Tuesday 02 December 08 05:52 GMT (UK)
Welcome Home Help Shop Search Calendar Login Register
Search Images Online
 
  First Name(s)
Last Name
 
News: Ad: View the complete 1851 England Census online. No missing counties.

+  RootsChat.Com
|-+  England (Counties as in 1851-1901)
| |-+  England - General
| | |-+  Yorkshire (North Riding)
| | | |-+  Yorkshire (North Riding) Lookup Requests
| | | | |-+  Completed Yorkshire (North Riding) Look up Requests (Moderator: Ticker)
| | | | | |-+  Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« previous next »
Pages: [1] Print
Author Topic: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.  (Read 235 times)
Paul Caswell
RootsChat Veteran
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 659



WWW
Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« on: Sunday 06 January 08 14:40 GMT (UK) »
Hi All,

I am having a hard time finding my 2nd gt gran Eleanor Hill b1830, Whitby in the 1841 census.

I believe her parents were Robert Hill & Eleanor from IGI. IGI also suggests that there are two siblings, William b1825 and Elizabeth b1828.

She married John Caswell in 1848. The marriage was registered in Stockton, Durham. They are living in Middlesbrough in 1851.

The 1837 Poor law Valuation of Whitby does show a Robert Hill living in a property that sounds big enough to hold a family this size.

Thanks in advance.

Paul
Logged
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright
Paul Caswell
RootsChat Veteran
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 659



WWW
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 06 January 08 14:44 GMT (UK) »
P.S. Eleanor goes by the name of Ellen in 1851 but she is Eleanor in 1861. She died in 1866.
Logged
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright
tazzie
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 4234
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 06 January 08 14:57 GMT (UK) »



  Hi Paul.....

  HO107/317 F 10 P 15

  Stockton on Tees  Smithfields.

  Robert Hill 35 sail maker n
  Mary Hill    30                 n
  Eleanor Hill 10                n
Rachel Hill    6                  n
Mary Jane   1                   y
Elizabeth Sugden 10       y
William R Sugden 8          y

                        Tazzie
Logged
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

 This information is Crown Copyright from
   www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
tazzie
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 4234
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 06 January 08 15:02 GMT (UK) »



   Looks like he married  1836....


  Robert Hill to Mary Ann Newton

  Whitby 18361 Feb

                     Tazzie
Logged
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

 This information is Crown Copyright from
   www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Paul Caswell
RootsChat Veteran
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 659



WWW
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 06 January 08 15:06 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Tazzie, a fair fit. Eleanor is the right age and dad is Robert.  Perhaps Robert married a second time. The gap of 4 years between her and Rachel supports that.

Perhaps there are some other possibles.

There's definitely a family connection with Stockton on Tees.

Paul
Logged
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright
Ecneps
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 9634
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 06 January 08 15:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi Paul,

was just about to post the same family as Tazzie.  Robert & Mary Ann & Eleanor born outside Durham county but Rachel and the other children born in Durham.

Barbara  Smiley
Logged
Census and bmd information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Norfolk - Ebbs Whiterod Zipfell
Lincs & Yorks - Sivills Predgen
Sweden - Jönsson Cronberg Andersson
Yorks - Spence Hide Hird
Durham - Dalkin Selby Renwick
Somerset - Keen Hitchins
tazzie
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 4234
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 06 January 08 15:27 GMT (UK) »



   Rachel is baptised 10 Sep 1836   St Thomas' Stockton

                       father Robert
                       mother Mary

  but Mary Jane back in Whitby  15 May 1839
                        Tazzie
Logged
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

 This information is Crown Copyright from
   www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Paul Caswell
RootsChat Veteran
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 659



WWW
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 06 January 08 15:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Barbara. I just noticed that one too.

Needs a bit more research but I think this is too much of a coincidence. I'll chase thes people down and see if anything else turns up to confirm.

Tazzie, that may be a clincher.

You are all so amazing!  Shocked

Pau
Logged
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright
Ecneps
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 9634
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 06 January 08 15:29 GMT (UK) »
1851 HO107/2383 fol.696 p.51
Smithfield, Stockton

Mary Hill  head wid 41 Pauper Sail Makers wife Yorks Whitby
William N Ingledew son u 17 Sail Makers Ap  Yorks Dewsbury
Rachel Hill  dau  15 At home   Durham Stockton
Mary J  "       "     11 Scholar        "          "
Sarah A "      "      3     "               "          "
Robert   "   son    2      "               "          "
+ 2 lodgers

Strange how William's surname has changed from Sugden to Ingledew if same William?

Barbara
Logged
Census and bmd information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Norfolk - Ebbs Whiterod Zipfell
Lincs & Yorks - Sivills Predgen
Sweden - Jönsson Cronberg Andersson
Yorks - Spence Hide Hird
Durham - Dalkin Selby Renwick
Somerset - Keen Hitchins
tazzie
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 4234
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 06 January 08 15:41 GMT (UK) »



   Hi Paul......

  Ignor that marriage to Mary Ann Newton as I have gone further...

  Robert Hill to Mary Ann SUGDEN    28 JUNE 1835 WEST ACKLAM  YORKS.

                       Tazzie
Logged
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

 This information is Crown Copyright from
   www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Ecneps
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 9634
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 06 January 08 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Well done Tazzie!   Cheesy

Barbara
Logged
Census and bmd information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk and www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk
Norfolk - Ebbs Whiterod Zipfell
Lincs & Yorks - Sivills Predgen
Sweden - Jönsson Cronberg Andersson
Yorks - Spence Hide Hird
Durham - Dalkin Selby Renwick
Somerset - Keen Hitchins
Paul Caswell
RootsChat Veteran
*****
Offline Offline

Posts: 659



WWW
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 06 January 08 15:55 GMT (UK) »
The thot plickens. Smiley

Out to walk the dogs. Back in a few.

The Newton connection looks good for Whitby but the Sugden connection has its points. Definitely should keep me occupied for the evening.

Back to work tomorrow! Yukk!  Tongue

Paul
Logged
Caswell - Durham(Jarrow), Northumberland(Berwick), Dorset(Netherbury)
Drury - Middlesex(Kensington), Shropshire(Selattyn)
Turner - Dorset(Parkstone)
Speight - Kent(Gravesend), Westmorland(Kendal)
Stockley - Dorset(Corfe Castle)
Amey - Suffolk(Haverill)
Cousins - Norfolk(Ketteringham)
Sears - Bedfordshire(Potton), Cambridgeshire(Gamlingay)
Census information is Crown Copyright
tazzie
RootsChat Marquessate
********
Offline Offline

Posts: 4234
Re: Help find Eleanor Hill from Whitby in 1841 please.
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 06 January 08 16:01 GMT (UK) »




   Why thank you Barbara   Smiley

  Have fun Paul at least its dry here.......back to work.....I am a mum of two I haven't stopped am playing on here whilst they burn it off on the trampoline Grin

                     Happy hunting

                  Tazzie
Logged
Liscoe -all
Green/Simpson/Underwood-Beds
Walker/Foulkes/Fookes/Fooks/Hedges/Lamborne-Bucks.
Stanton/Pattrick/Cooper/Fitzjohn/Holland/Spalding-London
 Rewallin/Underwood -Devon
 Casbolt-London/Cambridge
 Favell/Favel - Lincs-Beds

 This information is Crown Copyright from
   www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
Pages: [1] Print 
« previous next »


[Copyright] [Free RootsChat Webspace] [Your Surname Interests] [Shrink Link] [About Us] [Terms of Use]
All Census Lookups are Crown Copyright, National Archives for academic and non-commercial research purposes only
RootsChat.com cannot be held responsible directly or indirectly for the messages or content posted by others. Inline images in messages are the copyright of the respective linked sites.
RootsChat.com, Europa House, Bury, Lancashire, BL9 5BT
0.152:24