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Re: William Nicholson, Blythe
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 17:50 BST (UK) »

Hi Martin,

Here is an update…

As well as the above George, these were the other children of Edward & Frances, my fault for not checking for other name variations of Frances.

Parents Edward & Fanny Nicholson – Abode Barnby Moor.
Baptised at Blyth
Mary, 4th Feb 1838 – fathers occupation, Farmer.
Fanny, 19th Jan 1840 - fathers occupation, Labourer.
Abraham, 13th Nov 1842 -  fathers occupation, Labourer.
Georgiana, 31st July 1853 - fathers occupation, Labourer.

Looked at the 1851;
HO107; Piece: 2121; Folio: 127; Page: 1 = Barnby Moor, Nottinghamshire.
Edward Nicholson,Head, M, aged 56,  Farm Bailiff, born Ordsall, Notts
Frances Nicholson, wife, aged 38, born Lincoln.
Mary, daug, age 13, scholar, born Barnby Moor
Fanny, daug, age 11, scholar, born Barnby Moor
Abraham, son, age 8, born Barnby Moor
George, son, age 4, born Barnby Moor
William Andrews & Thomas Olivant , Ag Labs


The NFHS index doesn’t cover Ordsall, but the IGI does C060531
EDWARD NICKOLSON born 02 NOV 1794   Ordsall, Nottingham parents John & Sarah.


Sheila.

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I don't know about the baptism being 3 months apart but I have had some odd things like that myself, in one parish they didn't have a vicar for a while and then you find dozens baptised at a time.
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Re: William Nicholson, Blythe
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 20:36 BST (UK) »

my goodness - look what happens when you go out!
Isn't it amazing what can be found with friends and technology that would have taken months of visits etc! Superb work Sheila.
It's great to see it all taking shape for you Martin.

Re the two baptisms - Mary doesn't appear on the 1871 census.
There is a birth - December quarter 1861 and a death December quarter 1863.
There is a birth for Sarah - September quarter 1863.

So it may be that Mary was sick and baptised and then Sarah is born around the same time. It would be worth checking parish records if possible for baptism/ funeral Mary and baptism of Sarah. Although still odd why they didn't have both baptisms together.

The census ages and baptism ages don't always tie up for the other children- not baptised as infants perhaps.

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Re: William Nicholson, Blythe
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 20:59 BST (UK) »

just for the sheer heck of it (and I do like to account for 'visitors' - I have amended the 1871 entry re Ann Bartrop- she was born Ordsall. (Nicholsons?)

1861 RG9; Piece: 2416; Folio: 30; Page: 18

Forist Lock Babworth
Abram Barthorp 64 yrs canal lock tenter b Retford
Ann 63 yrs b Ordsall
William Nicholson visitor 73 yrs one of the Brethon of Trinity Hospital Notts

(that's what it looks like for William- first two words have been overwritten with 'Clergy')
Ancestry has him as Trinity Hosp. as place of birth but it is a continuation of his occupation.
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Re: William Nicholson, Blythe
« Reply #18 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 21:10 BST (UK) »

Abraham and Ann (various spellings0 are the same in 18851 and in 1841 have two elderly Barthorp gents with them.

Interestingly:

1841 HO107 piece 851 book 11 folio 7 pg 6
East St East Retford

William Nicholson 55 yrs labourer
Sarah Nicholson 85 yrs

wonder if this is Edward's mother Sarah and if Ann, William and Edward are siblings?

1851
William is in same place with daughter Charlotte Bell and her husband and family. (1871 has a young Harriet Bell as a niece)
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Re: William Nicholson, Blythe
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 21:11 BST (UK) »

Ok…. Heywood,

Here you go…… just to verify your theory  Grin

Marriage at East Retford
Abraham BARTHROP & Ann NICHOLSON – 24th Dec 1816

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Re: William Nicholson, Blythe
« Reply #20 on: Tuesday 02 October 07 21:12 BST (UK) »

what a team!!
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Re: William Nicholson, Blythe
« Reply #21 on: Monday 29 October 07 21:44 GMT (UK) »

Hello Martin,

Just an update to confirm the previous info……

Marriage at Blyth – fiche 25, page 38
22nd May 1830
EDWARD NICHOLSON of the parish, Bachelor, labourer &
ELIZABETH BATTERSBY of the parish, spinster
By Banns, by Rudd A M, vicar.
Both signed their markX
In the presence of; Charles Battersby & Mary Wood.


Marriage at Clarborough – fiche 15, page 5, entry 9.
30th November 1837
EDWARD NICHOLSON,of the parish of Blyth, full age, Widower, Labourer.
Father John Nicholson, Labourer, deceased.
FRANCES FISHER, of Spittall Hill, Clarborough, full age, spinster, servant.
Father, William Fisher, Farmer.
Both signed their markX
In the presence of; John Coblett? & Elizabeth Fisher.


Best Wishes

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Re: William Nicholson, Blythe
« Reply #22 on: Monday 07 January 08 18:16 GMT (UK) »

I have just joined Rootschat and noticed this conversation. I believe the William Nicholson you have been discussing is a distant relation of mine. I have not checked all of the detail in this conversation against my records but I have come to the same conclusion for a good deal of it.

My Great Great Great Grandfather was Edward Nicholson (b1794). My Great Great Grandfather was Abraham Nicholson (b1842) - Abraham was the offspring of Edward and Frances Fisher whilst William was the offspring of Edward and Elizabeth Battersby.

However I did not have any information for William Nicholson (b1830) other than his birth. Thanks you that.

By the way my tree is on Genes Reunited if you want to check it out. It may go a generation or two further back than detailed in this conversation.
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Re: William Nicholson, Blythe
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 18:52 GMT (UK) »

Hi Roy,

And welcome to Rootschat. I hope you find the community here as friendly and helpful as I have done.

You may want to check my web pages and search for Ernest Nicholson, my g grandfather, then follow back his ancestry. I would be delighted to help if I can, and of course, to hear if you have anything new to add.

Start by looking here www.mosleyfamilies.net

Happy new year
Martin
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