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Sam Tidmarsh's NINETEEN children !
« on: Tuesday 08 January 08 09:59 GMT (UK) »

Was looking for My Samuel Tidmarsh from Warwickshire when I found this in "The rambler in Worcestershire, or Stray notes on churches and congregations 1851" on google books (great resource by the way)

I thought it might be of interest to rootschatters - theres a couple of candidates in the 1851 census.

"The tithes of Abberton have been commuted for £173. 10s.,
and there is a glebe of two acres and a half. The rent of two
acres of land in the parish is applied to the repair of the
church. Mr. Laslett is the patron; rector, Rev. F. Best;
clerk, Samuel Tidmarsh. The latter functionary, I am told,
has brought up two families honestly and respectably, and the
other day his nineteenth child was presented to him ! "







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Re: Sam Tidmarsh's NINETEEN children !
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 10:15 GMT (UK) »

Wow!

My vote is for Samuel Tidmarsh, 59 b Bretforton, who was in Abberton in 1851 with 50-yr-old wife Sarah,  three "Sunday scholar" children aged 9, 6 and 5, and 6-month old daughter Elizabeth in 1851: HO107/2045 folio 446 p4.

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Re: Sam Tidmarsh's NINETEEN children !
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 10:20 GMT (UK) »

1851

HO107Piece: 2045
Folio: 446
Page: 4
Samuel Tidmarsh 59 Ag Lab. Abberton Worcestershire
Sarah Tidmarsh 50  
Mary Tidmarsh 9
Jane Tidmarsh 6
George Tidmarsh 5
Elizth Tidmarsh 6 Mo  

Seems the most likely - producing a child at 50 is quite impressive (Samuel too !)

Only 4 live children though - you wonder if baby elizabeth survived !
 
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Re: Sam Tidmarsh's NINETEEN children !
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 10:27 GMT (UK) »

IGI shows 7 children baptised at Abberton for this couple:

Susannah 1837
Sophia 1838
Mary 1839
Mary 1842
Jane 1844
George 1846
Elizabeth 1850
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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Re: Sam Tidmarsh's NINETEEN children !
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 10:39 GMT (UK) »

1861 suggests Elizabeth survived infancy and was living with Married sister Martha

Class: RG9 Piece: 2106 Folio: 51 Page: 1
St Andrew Pershore Worcestershire
Michael Roberts 64 H
Martha Roberts 33  W b Naunton Beauchamp, Worcestershire
Jane Tidmarsh 16 sis in law b Abberton
Elizabeth Tidmarsh 10 sis in law b Abberton
Mary Jane Noon 16


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Re: Sam Tidmarsh's NINETEEN children !
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 10:45 GMT (UK) »

1861 suggests Elizabeth survived infancy and was living with Married sister Martha


Possibly living with her - possibly just staying the night.  Parents Samuel and Sarah were still alive and living in Abberton: RG9/2107 folio 4 p2.

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Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)
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Re: Sam Tidmarsh's NINETEEN children !
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 10:53 GMT (UK) »

IGI has christening of Samuel Tidmarsh, Bretforton, Oct 1791.
Son of Daniel and Sophia nee Driver

He has numerous siblings himself
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Re: Sam Tidmarsh's NINETEEN children !
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 10:58 GMT (UK) »

Only inkling for children of his first family are a whole load of submitted entries for christenings of children of a Thomas and susannah, (and then some of Thomas and Sarah) at Nortonbeauchamp, at earlier dates to those we have for his latest family.
Looks likely but would need checking out
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 11:50 GMT (UK) »

Possible Death Samuel Mar q 1866 age 75
Pershore Worcestershire 6c 233

Possible Death Sarah Mar q 1881 age 80
Pershore Worcestershire 6c 218

Possible Marriage Elizabeth Sep q 1882
Pershore Worcestershire 6c 501

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« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 17:22 GMT (UK) »

This reminded me that I once saw a poem written on the death of John HOMES Streton Grendon Hereford 1800 ( he is out on a twig of my tree)
This fine chap had 3 children by wife 1 Ann WOOD 14 by wife 2 Ann Pritchard another 3 by wife 4 Susanna Barrett and none by wife 4 another Ann Wood! (the widow Hide) child number 20 arrived when John was 61 If I remember right he was a well known huntsman and councilor wish I could lay my hands on the poem prehaps someone else knows it
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« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 18:03 GMT (UK) »

Found it its at http://www.geocities.com/sjkelsey2000/slaughter/pafg22.htm
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