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On the 1841 Census I have
William Newall farmer aged 38
Jane wife aged 37
and children, but also Ann mother aged 87
This confuses me as I cannot work out whose Mother this is.
William's Mother was called Rosann and Jane's was Elizabeth Gittins.
However his grandmotehr was Ann, and the age would fit better.
Does the original image reveal anything ?
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Hi
The 1841 does not give relationship details.
For Ann it just has ...
Ann Newall 87 ind born in county.
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Rosannah and Thomas are also at Cainham in 1841 + some Gittins do you have them?
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This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRidgway. Salop.Lancs.Stoke on Trent. Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James Longton Stoke on trent Staffs. Scholes.Collinge Middleton Lancs. Gogerty.Deavonporte Salop. |
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Would like them please.
This must be Grandma in 1841 - nee Ann TAFT
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1841 Cainham
HO107/921/9 fol 17 p6
Town Pitt
John Gittin 83 farmer
Ann 87
ann Stokes 24
Elizabeth stokes 20
next door at
Gutter Pitts
Thomas Newall 65
Roshannah 61
Martha 16
Jabez Small 7
all born in county
a few doors away at
pottery house are
Benjamin Gittins 58 coal miner
Mary 60
born in county
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This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRidgway. Salop.Lancs.Stoke on Trent. Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James Longton Stoke on trent Staffs. Scholes.Collinge Middleton Lancs. Gogerty.Deavonporte Salop. |
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Lot of 87 year olds about in Caynham - must be Shropshire air.
This cannot be Jane's mother at that age. Is this her Gran too 
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Yonder P -
Can you see a death for Elizabeth Gittins, or find her on the 1841 or 1851 censuses ?
I think she was the mother of Jane Newall nee Gittins who died in 1878, and married Willaim Newall in 1823.
I have an old photo which has been enhanced on this site and the people who are experts in this field have dated it around 1860.
Also they have suggested it is 3 generations, perhaps my gg father Jacob Newall on his marriage [1862], with his mother Jane [nee Gittins], and another related female a generation further back. This is the lady, who is around 70 years to look at I want to attempt to identify.
As this old lady is touching both the other 2 she is related to both I am told, so should be the mother of the lady and the grandmother of the other I am told.
I am trying not to get too excited about this early galls picture, it may all be wishful thinking, but maybe.....?
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Did she come from Caynam?
Gittins burials at Caynham St Mary
8th Jun 1814
Elizabeth Gittins abode Cainham age 30 b.1784
Ann Gittins 4th March 1831 age ?2
abode Clee Hill by Birds Pottery
Bemjamin Gittins 14th May 1832 age 11w b.1832 abode Clee hill
Elizabeth Gittins is quite a common name however.Do you have the husbands name as that might help if they are not from Caynam.
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This information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.ukRidgway. Salop.Lancs.Stoke on Trent. Colclough.Ackley.Adams.Harris.James Longton Stoke on trent Staffs. Scholes.Collinge Middleton Lancs. Gogerty.Deavonporte Salop. |
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No I only have the marriage of Jane Gittins in 1823 to William Newall at the Weslyan Chapel in Caynham.
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I think Jane may have been born in Bitterley in 1803, daughter of Benjamin and Elizabeth [nee Heyley], and Benjamin became a much used family name.
So I would be looking for Benjamin and Elizabeth on the 1841 censu.
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