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Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« on: Sunday 06 January 08 21:39 GMT (UK) »

I am looking for information as to the rehousing of families that lived on Flask Lane @ 1860.  From what I can find out the lane was leveled forthe expansion of Victoria station.  Was there something else that happened to Flask Lane first ie flood that destroyed all the houses or were they repossessed for the expansion and if so are there records of where the families were rehoused?  My distant relatives were at number 13 Flask Lane in 1851 census.
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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 January 08 16:09 GMT (UK) »

Have you got your family in the 1861 census ?  This might give you an idea of where they went.

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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 January 08 16:36 GMT (UK) »

I have tried both the 1861 and 1871 Census with no success.  Just hoping that someone may have some other line of research
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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 January 08 16:41 GMT (UK) »

Hello

The Wesminster Archives have this on their web site http://www.westminster.gov.uk/archives/

"The 1841 census for Paddington and the 1861 census for the Pimlico and Belgravia areas of Westminster have not survived"

Helps to explain why you cannot find the family in 1861.

Barbara  Smiley

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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 January 08 22:04 GMT (UK) »

Barbara,

Many thanks for that I was begining to think they had left the country! 
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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 10 January 08 19:16 GMT (UK) »

My family were in Pimlico in 1861 and I spent ages trying to find them. Then I discovered that the records were destroyed. Very frustrating, but at least it's a mystery solved.

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Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 10 January 08 20:21 GMT (UK) »

I agree meles - at least you can stop looking!
But why are my relatives always in the missing bits? Part of Paddington in 1841, other parts of London in 1861 and a whole Registration District in Essex (Dunmow) in 1851  Angry
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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #7 on: Friday 11 January 08 14:08 GMT (UK) »

Barbara and Meles,

So what are your plans now?  I guess the only option is visiting what remains of the local churches etc to see what records remain.  Are you both in the UK? 
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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #8 on: Friday 11 January 08 14:18 GMT (UK) »

For me, it's not the end of the world. It's only one census record missing. And I do have birth certificates from this period, so I do know where they were and don't really need to go to local churches.

meles

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Grimmer: Norfolk; Grimson: Norfolk
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Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #9 on: Friday 11 January 08 14:27 GMT (UK) »

Hello Jannorth
I am in the UK, but now live in Cornwall, so am quite a distance from London and Essex.
The missing 1851 Essex census is a real nuisance because it is the first one that gives birthplaces.  Also I have a few people who died betweeen 1841 and 1861 and it is harder to pin down the correct death registration.
The missing 1841 census might just have had my husband's East India Company ancestors on it.  Their house was uninhabited in 1851 when I am fairly sure they were back in India. I believe the Westminster Archives has some other records that may be of help to me but I need to check.
The missing 1861 census is my worst problem because I had hoped to track down on it a particularly elusive ancestor.
You can manage without the odd census return but it definitely makes finding the correct BMDs harder and you always have that feeling that you are missing something!
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Headington and Bateman - London
Feltwell - Norfolk and London
Lewin - India and NZ
Evan-Thomas - Wales and London
Purser and Cook - Hunts

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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 13 January 08 14:46 GMT (UK) »

I wish you both happy searching, I now live in Cape Town which makes research that little more difficult but I have a cousin a little more active back in the UK who has even managed to contact living relatives we did not know of so who knows what will turn up.  The worst part is that much of the "easy information" was buried when my two uncles and aunt passed away.  If only we had spoken more!

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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 13 January 08 16:50 GMT (UK) »

I was lucky that my lot were in their twenties and producing children. And the surname is quite unusual. So I looked up births in the area, and when I found a child with the same name as father and grandfather, I took a gamble, and bought a birth certificate. It was the wrong family!  Undecided  But a second certificate was right, and I managed to trace them that way.

Is that an option for you, Jan? They're not Smiths are they?  Wink

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Dixon: Hampshire; Collins: Middx
Jeary: Norfolk; Davison: Norfolk
Rogers: London; Bartlett: London
Drew: Kent; Alden: Hants
Gamble: Yorkshire; Huntingford: East London

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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 13 January 08 21:03 GMT (UK) »

No they are not Smiths but there are turning out to be more Norths and Prater's than I expected!  I did follow the wrong lead with a Scottish name and ended up with several generations only to be told that I has picked up one incorrect name, when I bought the correct wedding certificate it shed a whole new light on the whole picture - amazing what a couple of pounds investment can produce!

Where would we be without the internet and on-line Census!  Still checking gravestones and such I guess.

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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 15 March 08 22:02 GMT (UK) »

I had relatives living on St Georges Terrace Pimlico which I assume was also flattened by the Victoria Railway line, they moved to Lillingston Street, which also no longer exists.
How did you find out that Flask Lane was flattened?
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LANGLEY - Kentish Town, Camden, Islington, Barnet
MCDONALD - St Pancras, London
CARTER - Kentish Town
HOWARD - Pimlico, Kentish Town, Surrey, Sussex
PROUDLEY - Kent, Sussex
TAYLOR - Devon
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Re: Flask Lane, Pimlico flattened for Victoria Station?
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 16 March 08 01:59 GMT (UK) »

By using Google I was able to get some old maps and a few snippets of info on new buildings that had been erected in the location but have not found any definitive information as to exactly what happened.  I believe that all the census records for around that time in the Pimlico area were also lost which does not help.

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Jan
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