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Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« on: Sunday 06 January 08 23:03 GMT (UK) »

Could someone look up at the RO  details from the  Ault Hucknall PR for the marriage of John Saunders and Rebecca Brocksopp please?  I found the IGI record of their marriage  on 29 December 1817 in Ault Hucknall.   They had a daughter Charlotte baptised in Ault Hucknall on 5 November 1820 (also from IGI).

IGI does not give  the names of the fathers of John Saunders and Rebecca Brocksopp, no occupations nor where they resided at the time of marriage.  The 1851 census has  John Saunders and wife Rebecca  plus children in Bolsover however I did not recognise (and could not decipher) the names of their places of birth.  John Saunders seemed to be 'ODMIERS'  and Rebecca was 'FURNISS' both in Derbyshire.   Any help would be welcome.

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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 January 08 10:38 GMT (UK) »

Hi

In the 1871 census John Saunders is aged 74 (wid)and living with son Thomas in Pilsley, Derby. John gives his birthplace as Standby, Derbyshire.
If you haven't already got these details let me know.

There is a place called Furnace Vale which is near Whaley Bridge.

Carol
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Derby- Bamford,Slater,Marriott,Lee,Fox,Hopkinson,Hawksley, Furniss, Froggatt
Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson,
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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 January 08 11:34 GMT (UK) »

Hi

In 1861 he is 68 a widow and gives his birth place as Ault Hucknell and he is lodging with a Ann Litchfield and family in Sutton in Ashfield Nottingham and gives his occupation as a Miller

Jane
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Kershaw, Longbottom,Parvin
Areas  Huddersfield, Brighouse, Rastrick ,Thirsk, Sand Hutton
Masters in London/Surrey
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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 02:42 GMT (UK) »

Hi Sunflower and Sisterjane,

Many thanks for these details which I did not have.   John Saunders seems to change his birth place rather a lot!    I have not got the census details and if they are near to hand for you I would appreciate the details.  If not do not worry, now I know he was alive in 1861 and 71 I will track him down!
Thanks again for your help.

marp
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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 08:06 GMT (UK) »

Here yer go Marp

1861-Sutton in Ashfield-Nottinghamshire
RG9/2427/13/30
Forest St

Ann Litchfield 64 head widow b Sheffield    Seamer
Eliza  " 22 dau b Sutton in Ashfield                 "
Eliza " 8 Grandaughter b Burton on Trent
Mary Dudley 90 mother Widow b Sheffield
John Saunders 68 widow lodger b Ault Hucknall   Millers Man


Surname Saunders is indexed as Saundres

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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #5 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 16:32 GMT (UK) »

1871-Pilsley-Derbyshire
RG10/3607/23/40
Pilsley Lane

SAUNDERS

Thomas 43 head b Nth Skekby/Notts     Coal Miner
Jane 36 wife b Mansfield/Notts
William 12 son b Mansfield
John 6 son b Pilsley
Samuel 3 son b  "
Ann 1 dau b        "
John 78 Father b Stanby/Derbys       Miller
Elizabeth 48 sister Mar b Nth Skekby

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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #6 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 16:46 GMT (UK) »

Not sure if you have the 1841 info so i will post anyway.
This cencus does not give the relationships to each other and very often the ages are rounded -/+5yrs

They are all b Nottinghamshire except John Brocksop

HO107/861/4-Folio7-Page9-Skegby-Nottinghamshire
Forest

SAUNDERS

John 48   Miller
Rebecca 42
Elizabeth 26
Richard 15     Miller
Thomas 13
Hannah 9
Grace 2
John Brocksop 4

Jane

Cant find a birth for Rebecca  Huh
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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 16:53 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I came across this MI which may belong to your family.

Ault Hucknall

Sacred to the memory of John Brocksopp who departed this life 1 sept 1839 aged 87 also Rhume his wife who died Oct 6 1817 aged 50.

I noticed that some of the MI's gave the parish of STAINSBY which may be the parish meant on the 1871 census .

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Notts - Breeding, Lacey Marriott ,Kershaw,Chambers,Geeson,Mitchell,Watts,Peel,Potts,Slack,Robinson,
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Yorkshire - Potts, Bell, Derbyshire, Kershaw

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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 23:06 GMT (UK) »

Hi everyone, 

Thanks for the information about John Saunders, you have been really helpful.  I had the 1841 census and also the IGI dates of baptism for many of his children in Skegby by Manfield  (except Charlotte baptised in Ault Hucknall).  Your addtional census information has been great.

I wonder whether the MI could be for his parents?

All information much appreciated.

marilyn
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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 09 January 08 23:21 GMT (UK) »

Hi again.  I was particularly interested in the 1871 census as Elizabeth  age 48 sister was mentioned.  I presume that she is sister to Thomas head of household. What puzzles me is that she was married at the time and her name was Millns but this does not seem recorded on the census.

My gg grandmother was Elizabeth Saunders daughter of John Saunders and Rebecca Brocksopp baptised Skegby 27 May 1822.

Elizabeth married  Joseph Millns ( an artisan miller) in North Wingfield on 20 June 1843 and they settled in Chesterfield after quite a bit of moving around.

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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 16:41 GMT (UK) »

Hi,
There is a small village called Stanley which is near Skegby Mansfield don't know if that could be Stanby!
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Re: Look up request - Saunders and Brocksopp
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 26 February 08 23:10 GMT (UK) »

Stainsby is only a couple of miles from Ault Hucknall so I reckon its Stainsby.  Pilsley isnt that far away either.
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