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Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« Reply #30 on: Sunday 30 March 08 09:25 BST (UK) »

And where was Roads of May aka Rhoda?

Buckden Hunts 1861
RG9 981 151 27
James Thorpe 45
Elizabeth Thorpe 45
Edmund Thorpe 23
Ambrose Thorpe 20
Edengail Thorpe 16
Oliver Thorpe 14
Eliza Thorpe 13
Joseph Thorpe 12
Holland Thorpe 11
James Thorpe 6
Mace Thorpe 3
Rhoda Herne 2 Niece
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Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« Reply #31 on: Friday 04 April 08 18:22 BST (UK) »

Concerning Rhoda Herne amd Roads of May " Thorpe "
In the 1861 census Rhoda Herne is recorded as the niece of James Thorpe/ Elizabeth Thorpe nee Buttress.
In the 1871 census again Roads of May is recorded as the niece of James and Elizabeth.
Who are the parents of Rhoda / Roads of May, for if the census record is to be believed , than the mother has to be the sister of James, or possibly the sister of Elizabeth, but

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Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« Reply #32 on: Friday 04 April 08 18:27 BST (UK) »

Concerning Rhoda Herne and Roads of May " Thorpe "
In the 1861 census Rhoda Herne is recorded as the niece of James Thorpe/ Elizabeth Thorpe nee Buttress.
In the 1871 census again Roads of May is recorded as the niece of James and Elizabeth.
Who are the parents of Rhoda / Roads of May, for if the census record is to be believed , than the mother has to be the sister of James, or possibly the sister of Elizabeth, but I assume the term niece is to the head of the family .
I have no record of any siblings of James Thorpe bn c 1818, I do have James bn 1818 to John Thorpe and Silvester Gray.

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Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« Reply #33 on: Friday 04 April 08 18:28 BST (UK) »

Dear All

I have found Israel Thorpe married to Caroline Gray a Hawker/Wireworker.
Any connection to your Thorpe's?


Descendants of Israel Thorpe Gray


Generation No. 1

1.  ISRAEL THORPE1 GRAY was born 1852 in Cottenham, Cambridge.  He married CAROLINE GRAY Abt. Sep 1872 in Kings Lynn 4b 571, daughter of SAMPSON GRAY and CAROLINE ?.  She was born 1852 in Lynn.

Notes for ISRAEL THORPE GRAY:
Births Mar 1874 
Thorpe  Mesech    Cambridge  3b 533   

Births Sep 1877   
Thorpe  Caroline     Cambridge  3b 498   

Births Dec 1878   
Thorpe  Sarah     Cambridge  3b 521   

Births Mar 1881   
THORPE  Wilhelmina     Cambridge  3b 513   


More About ISRAEL THORPE GRAY:
Occupation: 1881, Wireworker

Marriage Notes for ISRAEL GRAY and CAROLINE GRAY:
Marriages Sep 1872
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Gray  Caroline     King's L.  4b 571   
Gray  Israel Thorpe     King's L.  4b 571   

More About ISRAEL GRAY and CAROLINE GRAY:
Marriage: Abt. Sep 1872, Kings Lynn 4b 571
   
Children of ISRAEL GRAY and CAROLINE GRAY are:
   i.   MESECH GRAY2 THORPE, b. Abt. Mar 1874, Cambridge.
   ii.   CAROLINE GRAY THORPE, b. Abt. Sep 1877, Cambridge.
   iii.   SARAH GRAY THORPE, b. Abt. Dec 1879, Cambridge.
   iv.   WILHEMINA GRAY THORPE, b. Abt. Mar 1881, Cambridge.
   v.   ROBERT ISRAEL THORPE, b. Abt. Sep 1882, Cambridge; d. Abt. Jun 1918, Cambridge.


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Norfolk: Freezer, Winter, Tye, Twigg, Harman, Osborn, Sieley, Wray, Gray, Saddleton/Sadler, Ray, Elliott, Copling, Newstead, Parsley, Payne, Purple, Watkins, Atmore, Butters, Boyce,
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Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« Reply #34 on: Friday 04 April 08 20:05 BST (UK) »

Hello Cindy

I was born into a travelling fair family and my aunt married Ronnie Harris.  If you look at www.fairground-heritage.org.uk/forum the fairground families link has loads of information that you may find helpful, there is even a family tree where the Harris family link to the Freeman-Biddall family.  This is the website that the information from `thegalloper' site was re-located to when that site collapsed.  The site is run by the Fairground Heritage Trust and there is a lot of circus and other entertainer info there.

I hope this helps.

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Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« Reply #35 on: Saturday 05 April 08 02:50 BST (UK) »

Concerning Rhoda Herne amd Roads of May " Thorpe "

Who are the parents of Rhoda / Roads of May, for if the census record is to be believed , than the mother has to be the sister of James, or possibly the sister of Elizabeth,



Rhoda/Roads of May was daughter of Alfred Hearn (aka John in the 61 Census) and his wife Rebecca "Becky" Buttress - sister of Elizabeth.
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Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 05 April 08 10:55 BST (UK) »

Israel Thorpe/Gray was the son of Meshack Gray and Sarah Harris.
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Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 05 April 08 11:59 BST (UK) »

Thanks for that info.
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Norfolk: Freezer, Winter, Tye, Twigg, Harman, Osborn, Sieley, Wray, Gray, Saddleton/Sadler, Ray, Elliott, Copling, Newstead, Parsley, Payne, Purple, Watkins, Atmore, Butters, Boyce,
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Re: HARRIS, SHERRATT, East Anglia
« Reply #38 on: Sunday 25 May 08 16:40 BST (UK) »

Thank you Loubielou,    Smiley

I have joined the message board and I'll see what transpires once my acceptance comes through.  (I will be posting about the sherratt side as this one is not getting anywhere at the moment)

Thanks again everyone.
I've been overwhelmed with info from here and am just waiting for my birthday money so I can purchase some more certs and the Harris book.
Plenty to be getting on with!
Cindy x
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LANCASHIRE: Briscoe, Taylor, Hamilton, Cutts, Mousdell, Dixon, Fairclough, Dingle, Pennington, Ingham, Martin, Pinnington, Haselden, Molyneux
CHESHIRE/DENBEIGHSHIRE: Briscoe, Gibson, Tudor

SCOTLAND: Hunt, Murray, Docherty, Malley, Cameron, Colman, Middleton, Mason, Drummond, Gourdale, Fraser

Traveller/East Anglia and beyond!: Harris, Sherratt, Thorpe
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Robert & Founess Gray Cambridge.
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 14 June 08 05:06 BST (UK) »

     I am a descendent (4 x Grt grandson) of Robert Gray & Mary Leighton who were married, 25 July 1797, Isleham, Cambridge, England. I have only just discovered this chat site & I am quite fascinated by the much of the chat exchanges involving many families I am researching & attempting to link together.

     I too tend to believe that Foundness/Founous/Fowk Gray to be a possible brother of the above Robert Gray though I am at present unable to verify such but, he fits very nicely.

     As well as the Gray family of Cambridge I am also keen to find further information on the Leighton/Layton/Laighton etc.. family.  Mary Leightons parents were William Leighton & Mary Torrington.

     I'm also interested in the king family. One of Roberts sons &, my ancestor, William Gray married Ann King (daughter of George King) on the 9 November 1833 in Mildenhall, Suffolk. There's strong evidence to also indicate that yet another possible/probable son named Henry married a Mary King who possibly may have been a sister of the above Ann King which sort of fits in with the Gypsy family traditon.

     Robert & Mary Gray relocated to Mildenhall, Suffolk sometime after 1812 & before 1833. From there some of their children eventually emigrated to both Tasmania & mainland Australia where several other of the extended Gray family of Cambridge either emigrated or, were transported as convicts.

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