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cass
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« on: Monday 07 January 08 15:20 GMT (UK) »

If someone was down as a greengrocer on the 1861 census would they have owned a shop?? My ancestor Jane Ousby was a greengocer in Penrith and I wondered if there would be a record of where she worked/owned. Cass


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« Reply #1 on: Monday 07 January 08 16:24 GMT (UK) »

Have you asked someone to look in a directory? (Mine's a bit early, 1829). If her name's on it she's at least the proprietor even if she doesn't own the buildings.

What's the address? Is it a streey of shops?

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« Reply #2 on: Monday 07 January 08 16:32 GMT (UK) »

The census only has her home address - longmires court, queen st, whitehaven. That seems a bit strange as I would have thought penrith was a good distance away. Cass


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Re: occupation
« Reply #3 on: Monday 07 January 08 17:10 GMT (UK) »

I guess she was no longer working - I came across this one today-

Robert BROUGH 51 Joiner and Carpenter, Lincs Boston (Blind, no occupation)


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« Reply #4 on: Monday 07 January 08 17:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi

I'm confused - easily done, but if the address in 1861 was Whitehaven, where did Penrith come from? Was it another document such as a marriage certificate? Can she not simply have moved?

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Re: occupation
« Reply #5 on: Monday 07 January 08 17:51 GMT (UK) »

Just looked at the 1861. I see that she was born Penrith rather than being a greengrocer there Undecided

I'm also confused.

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Re: occupation
« Reply #6 on: Monday 07 January 08 17:54 GMT (UK) »

here's part of the entry:

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Re: occupation
« Reply #7 on: Monday 07 January 08 21:35 GMT (UK) »

sorry, i seem to have confused everyone including me. Totally forgot that she was born in Penrith but had obviously moved to Whitehaven!!! The address does'nt sound like a greengrocers so maybe she just worked in one. Cass


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Re: occupation
« Reply #8 on: Monday 07 January 08 21:48 GMT (UK) »

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It's possible that she used the front room of her house as a shop.

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Re: occupation
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 12 January 08 20:53 GMT (UK) »

It looks like she died Q1 1881 (aged 68) in whitehaven but unfortunately www.historicaldirectories.org doesn't have any directoriesfor cumberland between 1861 and 1881.
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Re: occupation
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 12 January 08 21:36 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Have you looked on here? Still a bit early, but later than 1861 census. (From Rootsweb resources).

I'm still being slow, and I'm not sure who I'm looking for.

http://cultrans.com/whitehaven1864/page20.htm

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Re: occupation
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 12 January 08 22:45 GMT (UK) »

Hi

Whoops! Sorry, I just went back and reread the start and she isn't there.

Looks as though it could well be a front room job, or just working for someone.

Sorry about that.

Emms


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Re: occupation
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 12 January 08 22:48 GMT (UK) »

Looking on Emms reference , you'l see there is no Longmires court but there is a Mr. Joseph Longmire, druggist, living at 41 Queen st.
Gadget showed half the 1861 entry but who else was in the dwelling/
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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 12 January 08 22:55 GMT (UK) »

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Re: occupation
« Reply #14 on: Sunday 13 January 08 11:39 GMT (UK) »

If the Longmires Court was connected to Joseph Longmire, they must have been quite a high profile family. There's quite a few dwellings in Longmires court, and there's a Longmires Passage.

I'm trying to visualise where it might have been. Queen St is quite a long street, it must have been somewhere that something else has been built in it's place. I'm intrigued - I'll have to try and find an old map. Geoff have you not got one of the area?

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