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greendoor
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Im looking for Bernard & Marjory Doherty 1887-1901 living in Saltcoats and their daughters family, James and Margaret McGuire in Ardrossan 1891
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1901 census
Ardrossan Old Police Burgh of Saltcoats
51 Vernon street
Marjory Doherty Head Widow age 80 Dealer in Second Hand Clothes born Ireland
John Doherty Son age 42 Cartage Contractor born Ayrshire Beith
Edward Doherty Son Age 40 Ship Carpenter born Ayrshire Beith
Ann Doherty daughter age 50?? House Keeper born Ayrshire Saltcoats
Patrick Mcguire grand son age 18 Coal Miner born Ayrshire Saltcoats
Mary Ann Doherty Grand Daughter agr 20?? Dynamite Worker
born Ayrshire Saltcoats
Margaret Mcguire grand daughter age 13 scholar born Ayrshire Stewarton
I found a death cert for Marjory Doherty
?? Sep 1902 District of Old Ardrossan, Ayr
Marjory Doherty General Dealer
widow of Bernard Doherty
died 4h 0m am
11 ?? Street Saltcoats
age ?8
Father Charles Devine, Farmer deceased
Mother Margaret Devine MS Brown deceased
Edward Doherty SON present
Death Cert Edward Doherty 1911 Old Ardrossan, Ayr
Edward Doherty Ship Carpenter Single
died 26 Feb 1911
age 53
Father Bernard Doherty General Dealer deceased
mother Marjorie Doherty MS Devine deceased
John Doherty Nephew present, 11 Vernon Street Saltcoats
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greendoor
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Many thanks for this info about my family Marjory was my Gg grandmother and you have know helped me find her parents ,do you know if they to came from ayrshire and if I can find them on SP
Many thanks for your help
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Piglet01
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I don't know if you have this - from the IGI - www.familysearch.org - using the 'search' facility entering the parents names Bernard Doherty and Marjorie Devine.
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You have also scored in a big way by having John born in 1855 as from SP:
"1855 birth records were very detailed and are a boon to the family historian. In addition to details about the child (date, place and time of birth, full name, sex), the parents' names (including maiden surname of mother), father's occupation, name of informant and relationship to child, an 1855 birth certificate also contains information on siblings, the ages and birthplaces of both parents, their usual residence and the date and place of their marriage. Such detail proved difficult to sustain and entries were modified from 1856. Information on siblings was removed, as were ages and birthplaces of parents and date and place of parents' marriage. In birth certificates since 1861 however, the date and place of the parents' marriage was reinstated".
Regards, Steve :O)
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McDonald originating in Aberlour. Smith (Aberdeenshire/Aberdeen), Esslemont, Christie, Robbie; Scott (in Aberdour). Crosbie and Willison. Roxburgh: Lawrie, Thomson, Paxton, Peacock, Amos, Robson
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greendoor
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Many thanks for this infi I will have a look
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L L
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Wish I could help more with Marjory's parents, but as you can see, on the 1901 census she indicates she was born in Ireland. Do you have any idea which county in Ireland your family may have come from? Do you know what religion they may have been? I have been trying to trace my family and found that they too had come from Ireland to Ayr but were protestant so most of the records were burned in Ireland. I hope you do not hit the same brick wall I did.
I will do some more searching but suspect that her parents came from Ireland and there will be no records in Scotland on them. Could they have been Ulster Scots?
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greendoor
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I don't know where they came from and I don't seem to see any religion so I think it's a brick wall from now on,are you from ayrshire yourself?
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MonicaLesl
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Hi Greendoor
I would in your position follow up on Steve's advice and look at the birth cert for John b. 1855. It will hopefully at least give you details as to where in Ireland Bernard and Marjory came from. With Irish parents, it's a lucky break when you come across an 1855 BC! This may prove to be the only source of info you will find as to where they came from in Ireland.
Regards.
Monica 
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MacIsaac, MacDonald, MacPherson, MacVarish, MacMaster: Moidart - Inverness-shire.
Gillies: pre-1850 Knoydart, Inverness-shire /post 1850s Fort William area - Argyll.
Tully, Tulley, Moran, Murphy: Lanarkshire.
Durnan, Durnin, Kelly, Tully, McPhillips: Co Monaghan.
McIntyre, McMahon, Tully: Co Cavan (?) Ireland.
Moran: Co Mayo (?) Ireland.
..........and lots of Spanish name interests........
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L L
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Hi Greendor,
On the son John that was born 1855 his birth cert has great info!
John DOCHERTY Male born 1855 June 29 4h 30min AM
Where born - Main street Beith
Father - Bernard Docherty, Pawn Broker, 37 years, DONEGAL,IRELAND
Married 1844 Ireland
other children -1 boy 2 girls living, 1 girl deceased
Mother - Marjory Docherty, Maiden Name DEVINE, her 5th child, 35 years, DONEGAL, IRELAND
So you need to look for records in Donegal , Ireland. amd you now have a good idea on dates for marriage certs to look for as well as birth certs based on their ages. As John was the 5th child and on the 1901 census he only had one older sibling (sister Ann) , we are missing some children from his family. I will check some older census records.
I am not from Ayreshire though I have been researching my family long enough that I think I am a major contributor to the Scottish and Irish economies!
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greendoor
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What can I say thank you so much, I'm over the moon as I'm always over in Donegal as my husbands family are from Dungloe Donegal
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greendoor
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One of his siblings is my g grandmother Margaret I have her aged 3yr and her sister Marjory 9months on the 1851 Glasgow census and I have them up until 1901.I can't thank you enough for tracing them back to Donegal .People on this site have been so kind as I came in with only my mothers details which have been a bit confusing and I have found out so much about her family thanks to kind people like yourself taking the time and trouble to help.
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