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Matlock Record Office lookup? Kirk Ireton PR
« on: Monday 07 January 08 23:14 GMT (UK) »

I wonder if someone would be able to do some lookups at Matlock Record Office.

I would like more details on these events recorded in the Kirk Ireton parish register:

Peter HOLMES
Hannah BRATBY
married: 21 Sep 1826 Kirk Ireton
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William HOLMES   
christened: 23 Oct 1826 Kirk Ireton
Father: Peter HOLMES
Mother: Hannah
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William HOLMES   
christened: 25 Jun 1827 Kirk Ireton
Father: Peter HOLMES
Mother: Hannah
[note: possibly a red herring - an IGI submitted record]
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Sarah HOLMES   
christened: 07 Jul 1828 Kirk Ireton
Father: Peter HOLMES
Mother: Hannah
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Any death/burial records of any of the above 1828-1841
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My ggg-grandfather, Peter HOLMES / HULMES / HULME, was born 1804-07 in Kirk Ireton or "near Wirksworth", but settled in the Manchester area by 1834 with his wife, Sarah BROOKS (of the Wilmslow area in Cheshire), whom he MAY have married in 1833 in Warrington. Anyway, I'm trying to determine if MY Peter is this one from the IGI:

Peter HOLMES
christened: 05 Feb 1805 Kirk Ireton
father: William HOLMES
mother: Sarah [STORER]

It's possible that Hannah BRATBY was MY Peter's first wife, but I have no record of them after the 1828 christening. Gumming up the works are a family with similar names on the 1851 census for Kirk Ireton, but they were all born in Dronfield.

It's all very convoluted, so let me know if this makes sense or not...

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ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HULME(S): Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GRAY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAW(E), FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford
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Re: Matlock Record Office lookup? Kirk Ireton PR
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 08:44 GMT (UK) »

yes i am going today, will do them for you.


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Re: Matlock Record Office lookup? Kirk Ireton PR
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 12:49 GMT (UK) »

Hi there, i wasnt sure what else you wanted as the info you have down is all there was on the records, only bits n bobs what you had not got.

peter & hannah marriage, neither could sign, witnesses samuel shepherd & samuel bradbury marsh, i know its a man but that is what the first name looked like.

peter holmes the father was a labourer.

yes there were two entries for william holmes oct 1826 & june 1827



deaths of holmes between those years

william holmes 6yrs feb 27 1828
ellen holmes 49yrs june 27 1828
hannah holmes 19yrs aug 28th 1828


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Re: Matlock Record Office lookup? Kirk Ireton PR
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 13:30 GMT (UK) »

Thanks so much for doing that, moira - I wish these old PRs were a little richer in detail, but I'll take what I can get!


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ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HULME(S): Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GRAY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAW(E), FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford
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Re: Matlock Record Office lookup? Kirk Ireton PR
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 13 January 08 17:29 GMT (UK) »

Moira - A little follow-up: I don't know how much time you've spent poring over the Kirk Ireton registers, but I wondered if the above data was typical of them (at least in pre-1837 days) - namely, marriages with no ages, professions, or parents mentioned, and deaths with no next of kin mentioned.

I keep thinking I'll find just the right scrap of evidence that will answer all my questions, but I don't want to get my hopes up too high, especially if the PRs aren't so forthcoming.

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ENDSOR: Tamworth/Manchester
LAMB: Leeds/Manchester
SMITH: Manchester
HULME(S): Kirk Ireton/Manchester
WORTHINGTON: Middleton/Manchester
SHORROCK: Manchester
BROOKS: Wilmslow
By marriage in Manchester: BAXENDALE, DODD, EYERS, FIRTH, FISHER, FO(R)STER, HARGREAVES, J(A/E)RVIS, McKEOWN, OSBALDESTON, PICKWELL, PODMORE, SCHOFIELD, SHALLCROSS, STONES, WALKER
GRAY, DOYLE, GOLDEN, MONAHAN: Ireland
HAW(E), FRENEY, NARY: Co. Kilkenny
DONOHO and variants: Co. Longford
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Re: Matlock Record Office lookup? Kirk Ireton PR
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 21:20 GMT (UK) »

Hi Moira

Can you please forget about my look up

I have now found the information I am looking for.

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