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RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« on: Tuesday 08 January 08 01:31 GMT (UK) »

Does anyone know where a Roman Catholic is likely to be buried if place of death was Blythswood View Clydebank in Jan 1909?. The family was Irish. I can't find Blythswood View,it is probably long gone. The family never strayed far from Glasgow Rd as my grandfather worked in the shipyards. Or maybe someone may know which RC parish or chapel a family in that area would be a member of?
Thank you for any light on the subject
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #1 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 13:30 GMT (UK) »

There were three Catholic churches in the Clydebank area in 1909.  St Mary's Duntocher was opened in 1841, Our Holy Redeemetr's in 1888 and St Stepehn's Dalmuir in 1907.  If they worked in the Shipyard and lived around Glasgow Road it would more likely be OHR as it is on Glasgow Road.  There is no Catholic cemetary around the Clydebank area, and Catholics were buried along side other denominations.  The priest normally consecrated the ground before the body was place in the grave.  You could try telephoning Clydebank council cemetaries on 0141 567 2310, they should be able to help.  OHR's telephone number is 0141 952 9508 and their e-mail is parishpriest@msn.com.  All the Catholic parish records are held in the National Archives in Edinburgh and they will photocopy and post out if you can not go in person.
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 08 January 08 21:17 GMT (UK) »

thank you for so much info. It is exactly what I needed. I appreciate your help.
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 16 January 08 12:04 GMT (UK) »

Does anyone know where a Roman Catholic is likely to be buried if place of death was Blythswood View Clydebank in Jan 1909?. The family was Irish. I can't find Blythswood View,it is probably long gone. The family never strayed far from Glasgow Rd as my grandfather worked in the shipyards. Or maybe someone may know which RC parish or chapel a family in that area would be a member of?
Thank you for any light on the subject
Catherine

Interesting, which name are you researching because I also came across the exact same address and couldn't locate it (hence finding your post here)? I'm looking at Sweeney and Gray that both also came over from Ireland. Not that I can find out where, they never said on any of the documents I've found so far.
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 17 January 08 00:52 GMT (UK) »

And yet another Blythswood View!!  My Grandmother was born there in 1907.  Her parents came from Rathmelton Donegal sometime after 1900.   
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 17 January 08 03:29 GMT (UK) »

I don't know where Blythswood View was but I am guessing it was very near Glasgow Rd.  My grandfather Daniel Logan worked in the shipyards and lived at 6 Napier St in 1902, John Knox St 30, 32 and 35 between 1903 and 1907
At 23 Blythswood in 1909 when his wife Ellen Greer died in 1909. There is also a connction to a Doran family at 11 Blythswood View in 1915. Looking at Mapquest all the addresses are within a very small area. Only Blythswood is missing but Clydebank has had so many redevelopments, clearing of sub standard housing and the blitz of course it is not surprising it is gone.
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 17 January 08 10:38 GMT (UK) »

And yet another Blythswood View!!  My Grandmother was born there in 1907.  Her parents came from Rathmelton Donegal sometime after 1900.   

What was her surname?
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 17 January 08 11:13 GMT (UK) »

I don't know where Blythswood View was but I am guessing it was very near Glasgow Rd.  My grandfather Daniel Logan worked in the shipyards and lived at 6 Napier St in 1902, John Knox St 30, 32 and 35 between 1903 and 1907
At 23 Blythswood in 1909 when his wife Ellen Greer died in 1909. There is also a connction to a Doran family at 11 Blythswood View in 1915. Looking at Mapquest all the addresses are within a very small area. Only Blythswood is missing but Clydebank has had so many redevelopments, clearing of sub standard housing and the blitz of course it is not surprising it is gone.

Interesting, my lot (Sweeney - her maiden name Ward, both from Ireland, and 5 kids all from Ireland too, just can't find out where!) all lived at number 23 as well, they are on the 1901 Census. I agree it was probably near Glasgow Road. It must have been a big place, presumably with lots of flats or something because there are a lot of families shown at the same address. Most of my lot were working in the shipyards. One of them (my Mum's Granddad) then married another Irish girl, a Grey (after he moved up the road to William Street and she was living on the same road working in Duntocher Mill) and he worked on the Queen Mary ship but his brother was killed in an accident in the shipyard when a rowing boat got turned over (I have an article from the Scotsman which describes it all). Anyway, I digress! It's such an interesting hobby this. I just wish I'd started before my own Granddad died.

My Mum was born in Clydebank in 1938 and remembers the blitz very well indeed, despite being so young (she lived across from the Singer factory which was heavily bombed). She's 70 next week ! She now lives further North in Scotland and I'll be going through Glasgow to get there. I would like to go and look around the area but don't think we'll have enough time.
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 17 January 08 11:19 GMT (UK) »

And yet another Blythswood View!!  My Grandmother was born there in 1907.  Her parents came from Rathmelton Donegal sometime after 1900.   

What was her surname?

Her name was Dunn.  Her mothers maiden name was Peoples
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 17 January 08 11:33 GMT (UK) »

Her name was Dunn.  Her mothers maiden name was Peoples

Ah right, no connection there then (apart from the address of course) !
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 17 January 08 18:40 GMT (UK) »

Her name was Dunn.  Her mothers maiden name was Peoples

Ah right, no connection there then (apart from the address of course) !

I don't think there's any connection either apart from the address, which is why I posted originally... At the moment, you don't know where your Sweeneys and Wards hailed from,  but often our Irish  went where they knew other people from home (as well as the availability of work).... so mine were from Rathmelton area .. soooooo!!! I'll check later tonight the percentage of Irish adults in this street in 1901, also the names and see if there is any basis for this theory (in this case).
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There are Sweeneys and Wards in Rathmelton in Griffiths Valuation  around 1857 do you have death certs with parents names in Scotland.
I'll check the particulars and get back later.
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 17 January 08 19:04 GMT (UK) »

There are Sweeneys and Wards in Rathmelton in Griffiths Valuation  around 1857 do you have death certs with parents names in Scotland.
I'll check the particulars and get back later.

That's very interesting, thanks. I have Hugh Sweeney and Margaret Gray who were living there, both from Ireland.

Hugh's parents were John Sweeney (parents Hugh Sweeney and Mary McGinnis) and Winifred Ward (parents Patrick Ward and Margaret Docherty).

Margaret's parents were Patrick Gray and Margaret McKinnon.

All this info has come from certificates from Scotlands People. I'm assuming (!!) that because I can't see John and Winifred (who had 6 children all born in Ireland between 1868 and 1887) weren't on the 1891 census that they came from Ireland sometime between then and 1901 when they were there but I have no idea how they came or why or where from.

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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 17 January 08 20:42 GMT (UK) »

Got bogged  down with the 163 Irish born residents in this street. Many, many have Donegal names , and a good  proportion of Rathmelton names (in G.V.) BUT that doesn't mean to say they couldn't be present elswhere. Not proof.

I found the following on Lindels Donegal site.

It's curious that's all, and right time frame for John

1867 Sweeney, John 27 Bachelor Labourer Dromore,
-Conwal (father)Sweeney, Hugh Labourer- Ward, Mary Full Spinster  (father) Patrick Ward.

I think I'll have to go back and copy that entry again, it has not come out as I wished.   But my thoughts were, perhaps Winifred was a second marriage?? Maybe Marys sister???

If you are searching G.V. remember mcGinnis has alternative spellings e.g. Mc Guiness  etc .

I'll have to do some stuff for work tomorrow but I'll have another look later.

 
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Re: RC cemeteries Clydebank area
« Reply #13 on: Friday 18 January 08 00:47 GMT (UK) »

Link to Lindels page with marriage record

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~donegal/lettcivregmarr.htm
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« Reply #14 on: Friday 18 January 08 11:10 GMT (UK) »


Thanks for that, what an excellent site that is. I've e-mailed as suggested on the page you pointed me to to ask to see the scan, since it is also possible that the 'Mary' bit was hard to read and could have been something else?

Thanks for your help,
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