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Topic: KIDDs emigrating? after 1841 (Read 374 times)
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Lilygirl
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Looking for a family of KIDDs.
Can't seem to find anything about them after the 1841 census when they were in Haddenham, Cambridge, England.
Think they may have emigrated just not sure where to so thought would start with the US.
Benjamin KIDD born 1796ish
wife Ann
children James KIDD born 1820
Mary Ann KIDD born 1826
Sarah KIDD born 1827
Rebecca KIDD born 1831
Benjamin KIDD born 1837
Think they were all born in Haddenham, Cambs.
Any suggestions??
Can anyone find any of them anywhere?
Thanks in advance,
Lilygirl.
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genealiza
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Could this be the family?
1850 Census, Illinois, LaSalle, Troy
Roll: M432_115
pg: 286
Benjamin Kidd, 55, male, wagonmaker, value of real estate $20,
b. Eng
Ann 57, female, b. Eng
Rebecca 18, female, b. Eng
Also found this:
1860 Census, Illinois, LaSalle, Troy Grove
Roll: M653_197
pg: 849
James Kidd, 40 male, wagonmaker, real estate value$1600, per-
sonal estate $250, b. Eng, can't read or write
Eliza Kidd, 28, female, b. Eng
William, 8, male, b. ILL, attends school
John, 4, male, b. ILL
Ann, 66, female, b. Eng, cant read or write
And, on the following website, I found:
http://www.cyberdriveillinois.com/departments/archives/marriage.html
Illinois marriages:
LaSalle County:
Sarah Kidd m John Salt, 31 Mar 1849 Vol A license #2148
Mary Ann Kidd m Allen J Knox, 12 Dec 1849 Vol A license #2267
James Kidd m Elizabeth Edgcomb, 29 Sep 1850 Vol A license#2429
1870 Census
Roll: M593_244
pg: 735
they are still in Troy Grove. Lists James Kidd 50 (retired farmer), Elizabeth Kidd 38 (keeping house), and Benjamin Kidd 16 (works on farm).
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Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, :Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc
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Lilygirl
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WOW that's fabulous thanks a lot!
Is there any reference numbers to the census lookups at all so I can locate them again?!
How exciting thanks.
Benjamin has a couple of brothers I can't account for either maybe they went there too??
James KIDD born 1805 Haddenham, Cambridge, Eng.
and William KIDD born 1813 Haddenham, Cambridge, Eng.
Thanks again,
Lilygirl.
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genealiza
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I've sent you a PM. I'll get the references and put them on the original reply.
In 1880
Roll: T9_223
pg:490
enumeration district: 79
Benjamin, b. 1854, is living with his brother, William, and family, in Ophir, LaSalle, ILL.
I'll see if I can find your other "losts".
Genealiza
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Atkinson, Wearing/Warton Lanc, :Hayhurst,Kendall/Kirkby Lonsdale West,Barrow-in-Furness Lanc
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genealiza
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1850 Census, Illinois, LaSalle, Troy (taken 23 Oct 1850)
Roll: M432_115
pg: 278
Wm Kidd, 36, male, wagonmaker, real estate value$300, b. Eng
Naomi 29, female, b. Eng
Wm 9, male, b. ILL, attends school
George 7, male, b. ILL, attends school
Albert 3, male, b. ILL
Harriet 3/12, female, b. ILL
Epzaber Kidd, 15, female, b. Eng, attends school
Looking in the link above for Illinois marriages, there is a
Epsibah Kidd m Harrison Gage, 26 Dec 1855 Vol B license #2309
and
Naomi Edwards Kidd m Howard Douglas 3 Jan 1856 Vol B lic#2311
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Lilygirl
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Hi there,
Would you be able to post more of Epsibah any census at all please?
Lilygirl.
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Hi Lily
1860 US census
Stockton, Jo Daviess County, Illinois
Roll M653_189, page 975
GAGE
Harrison, age 30, farmer, born England
[b]HUPTGRAPH[/b] (sic) 26, born England
Howard F, 3, born Illinois
Cyrus R, 8 months, born Illinois
In 1870, same location
Cyrus 11 and Howard 13 are living with Zacariah 56 and Mary 47 GAGE. Possible grandparents? both born England.
Not seeing Harrison and Epzi at the mo. Sorry
Grub
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shellyesq
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Zacharriah and Mary Gage are also listed on the link that genealiza gave.
Harrison resided in Stockton, Illinois when he enlisted as a in the Union Army on 8 Aug 1862. He enlisted in Company I, 96th Infantry Regiment Illinois on 4 Sep 1862. He mustered out on 10 Jun 1865 at Nashville, TN. He was promoted to Full Corporal on 10 Jun 1865.
It appears that Cyrus Gage remained in Stockton through the 1930 Census and married a woman named Clarabel(le). The 1880 Census has Howard and Cyrus with Zacharriah and Mary Ann in Stockton and they are listed as Zacharriah's nephews.
In 1900 Census in Pleasant Valley, IL (same county as Stockton), there is a Howard Gage, born Aug 1857 in IL, parents born England, occupation farming. He was married for nine years. Wife was Martha E. Gage, born June 1867 in Pennsylvania. They had no children. A servant named James Donahue was living with them.
On Ancestry's One World Tree, there is an entry for Cyrus Rolland Gage born 4 Oct 1854 in Stockton, married Clara Belle Perry 4 Jul 1882 in Galena, IL, and died 11 Aug 1930 in Stockton. Clara Belle died 28 Mar 1944. They had a son named Howard LeRoy Gage born 10 Mar 1883 in Illinois. No sources are listed for any of this, so take it for what it's worth.
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Lilygirl
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Hi there,
WOW thanks peoples that's really a lot to go on. Very interesting.
So Cyrus and Howard are nephews of Zachariah so one of Zacharriah's brothers is their father.
Zach seems too young to be father to Harrison tho doesn't he?? wonder what the relationship is there of have I missed something?!
I've been following Harrison thru his marriage so don't know much about the family as yet am still piecing bits together!
thanks again.
Lilygirl.
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shellyesq
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I figured Cyrus and Howard were Harrison and Epsibah's sons, based on the 1860 Census that grub posted. Therefore, I would guess that Zacharriah and Harrison were brothers.
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Lilygirl
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Hi there,
Thanks people for your help with my post. Still not sure when they arrived but have narrowed it down a bit and also learnt much more about where they went and what they did.
Thanks again it's been a great help.
Lilygirl.
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Lilygirl
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1850 Census, Illinois, LaSalle, Troy (taken 23 Oct 1850)
Roll: M432_115
pg: 278
Wm Kidd, 36, male, wagonmaker, real estate value$300, b. Eng
Naomi 29, female, b. Eng
Wm 9, male, b. ILL, attends school
George 7, male, b. ILL, attends school
Albert 3, male, b. ILL
Harriet 3/12, female, b. ILL
Epzaber Kidd, 15, female, b. Eng, attends school
Naomi Edwards Kidd m Howard Douglas 3 Jan 1856 Vol B lic#2311
is anyone able to find Howard and Naomi Edwards Douglas in the 1860 census at all pretty please? ? can't place her as yet?!
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In 1860 she is in Mendota, LaSalle, Ill
Howard Douglas, 40, merchant, real estate worth 1800, personal assets 1000, born England
Naomi, 35, born eng
Harriett, 3, born Ill
In 1870, they are still in Mendota
Howard Douglas, 53, carpenter, born Eng
Naomi, 49, born Eng
Adelaide, 13, born Ill
Delphine Kidd, 4 months, born Eng
In 1880, Naomi is listed as Naomi Kidd, still in Mendota, with daughter Adelaide Douglas, 27, a clerk in a store.
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