fairykelsey
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Hi Peter
I am decended from William warren (my GGG grandfather) born 1769 who died 1856, he was married to esther they had several children including a william warren who was born 1813 died 1855 (is this the same one you mentioned)
anyway, william and esthers son john is my GGGG grandfather he married a hannah hind and their daughter susanna married thomas kelsey which then brings it down into my family.
thats the shortend version of my family tree!
I myself am from derbyshire and the kelsey family continued to live around the area of turnditch where the warren family are from.
Amy
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fairykelsey
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sorry my mistake.... where i said 'I am decended from William warren (my GGG grandfather) ' that should read GGGGG grandfather.
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fairykelsey
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I have just noticed that you talked about Eliza warren born and died 1847 (she too is on my tree the daughter of samuel and mary, samuel being the brother of my GGGG grandfather john)
In 1853 another eliza was born to the same family, myself and my uncle presumed she was named after the eliza who sadly died. I have no details of whether this eliza married but i do know she had a daughter named esther warren born 1880
don't know if that is of any interest to you
Amy
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fairykelsey
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Thank you, will check that out!
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warren67
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Amy
What we have to be careful of is that I would guess you are a generation later than me. I will be 68 in March and therefore my GGG generation would be your GGGG one.
I am retired and writing the first 25 years of my life story and a section includes my parents (now dead) and their ancestors
Peter
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fairykelsey
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Grant
It would be interesting to take a look at that!
Am seieng my uncle today to share information, will see what comes of that.
Amy
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warren67
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Amy
Yes, the same William Warren.
I have a printed baptism record saying William's parents are Jno and Elizth.
Is there a possibility that your William and Ester are William's grandparents as Ester's William would have been 44 when they had my William. Is it possible that Jno could have been your William's son or brother?
Confusing but interesting !
I would guess that to postively link Samuel and the other Warrens around at that time to the 1813 William we need to search the Duffield parish records for baptisms around that era.
Regards
Peter
Of to Aus tomorrow, I will contact you when I get back.
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fairykelsey
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Peter
yes, I think that is highly likely actually. I have seen my uncle today and we spent several hours matching up everyone on our tree with the people on this thread...
basically everyone matches up and we think that your william has been missed off our tree which would explain a lot since everything else matches up.
I have a copy of our tree if you would like a copy sending to you let me know and I will forward one!
best wishes Amy
Ps have fun in austrailia!
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warren67
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Amy
Sorry for the long delay in replying. Yes I would like a copy of your family tree and some information about ester and william warren. Was william related to my GGGG grandfather Jno Warren? There was also about this time a Lay preacher called william warren, buried in Turnditch. Was he related?
I also now think my william was an only child and his mother (elizth or elizabeth) died giving birth or soon afterwards. Any comments.
Regards
Peter
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warren67
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Amy
I am now, within the next 5 days, sending my book to be printed. I still have one ? to resolve. I now believe my William (b. 1813) was an only child for it seems that his mother, Elizabeth, was very ill for a number of years before she died. I am hoping that William was a cousin of John and Samuel etc and as such I need to link his father,my GGGG John Warren (born 1773) with your William born a couple of years earlier.
Can you confirm or reject the link.
Best regards
Peter Warren
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cherrypink
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Hi, Peter, Amy, Grant and others,
I read these posts with some delight, excitement and incredulity, as I'm also a GGG-grandchild of John Warren and Elizabeth Coxam, via William Warren and his third (I believe) son George, and when I made a trip to Turnditch in Oct '07 (from home in S. Oxon) I was frustrated to see Samuel Warren and all the other Warrens stacked up in the graveyard at All Saints, knowing I was probably connected somehow, but was (and still am) unable to establish a link.
Interesting, Peter, that you think William was probably an only child, as I'd come to the same conclusion, wondering if there was perhaps another marriage that gave him half-siblings? Fascinating that you've found that his mother was ill - where did that delicious nugget pop up?
I'm brand new to this lark, so don't know the etiquette here, or whether it's de rigeur to re-vivify a chat after more than a three month gap, so forgive me if I'm making an awful faux-pas and you've all moved on! But, hey, Grant's opening post did say that it would be good to hear from others who stem from the Warrens of Turnditch!
My biggest problem to date has been finding anything earlier than John and Elizabeth Coxam's marriage - any pointers?
Good to e-meet you all.
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